Posts by Koogler
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10e on the zodiac sword
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As per the title
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As per the title
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Sold in-game.
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I've seen vabbian flatbows you people wouldn't believe...
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Ve vant ze vabbian flatbow, Lebowski...
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Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful vabbian flatbow...
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I need your clothes, your boots and your vabbian flatbow...
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As per the title, thanks
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Looking to sell the below, B/O only:
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Q9 Forked Hornbow (272 gv): 3a-
Q9 Aureate Blade (300 gv): 3a-
Q9 Avian Hammer (240 gv) : 2a-
Q9 Greater Highlander Blade (228 gv): 1a -
Bumpity...
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10e on the zodiac sword
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To the top of the thread and beyond!
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As per the title
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100e on the vabbian flatbow...
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100e on the Aureate Blade...
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80 gv.
S/B 20e.
I'll leave the auction up for a week, it'll end next Sunday at the time of posting (10.45pm BST).
Thanks for any bids / reserve the right etc.
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Again politely, I didn't say it could have been worded better. I believe it was worded exactly as intended, them hoping to hand over just "several" arms for some particularly high-end items.
The proof is not just in their choice of language, but in whom they are targeting with those messages, returning players, and the manner of the approach, ie a direct message hidden from any public challenge by knowledgeable players. When you combine these elements, their intention is clear and obvious.
If they listed those items in the WTB thread and said they were willing to pay "several arms" for any of them, they'd be laughed off the forum (as they well know)!
I've zero sympathy for them, get the torches and pitchforks out.
Several arms is subjective.. it can mean 1750a or 3000a... Which is enough to buy any q7/8 weapon(s) there is on the market, according to how auctions have been going lately.
As I and others have said on here, there are many players who are spamming WTB q7/8, prenerf etc all the time. Some of those players are known players on this forum, does that mean they are trying to rip people off? What happens in kama when people respond to their "WTB q7/8" messages? Do you think they talk in all chat about their deals? Do they stop and say, wait wait wait... before we move further, lets post about this to a public forum so people dont assume one of us is scamming the other? No, its private messages just like this reddit message was. Do we even know that the player was a new, returning player? Or was it a player who was posting about other q8's they had for sale? Maybe we should get all the information/back story about it first before we go assuming things.
From what I have read so far, it is all assumptions at this point and really we are just giving this player a bad rep based on false accusations. Meanwhile, other players are allowed to spam similar messages and its all okay? Yeah...no.. get that double standard outta here.
There was nothing subjective in the language when read in conjunction with the other elements I mentioned like, "I see you're an old school returning player" (it's in black and white above ffs mate).
We're not talking about other players, we're analysing the particular actions of this one to reach an (obvious) conclusion. Your post is just you getting lost in your own post. GL finding your way out.
Edit: just got a private message lol, I thought it came across like you had some skin in the game. "They" *cough*...
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What's key in this is this phrase - "I can pay several arms for any of these if you have!!" - and who is being targeted by these message/s: returning players.
The combination of the two is tacit acknowledgement by the prospective buyer of an attempt to scam.
This person will plausibly know that the items they list as examples, such q7/q8 weapons, Asian minis etc, are worth considerably more than "several arms" and are focussing on individuals who won't immediately be aware of current market prices - returning players - and hoping to catch them unawares (yes, I'm fully aware this sort of thing will be going on regularly in Spamadan regardless).
If this person had said, "I'm interested in X items and these are currently the approx going rates for them but get some additional opinions on eg this website and then we can potentially talk" then fair enough.
We also need to be mindful of not victim blaming either, "they should have checked" etc. The GW community has a collective responsibility to call out and try and prevent unscrupulous player behaviour.
I don't mean for this reply to come across as impolite because you've entered the discussion in good faith, but respectfully I think you're taking it far too easy on them.
You are correct in that they probably could have worded it better and again it’s a huge assumption which way they were taking it (bad wording or trying to rip a player off etc). Still don’t think it justifies posting private information about them and spreading possible false information on assumptions alone. We really don’t know how they meant their message. Beleive it or not, not everyone is out to scam players (doesn’t mean you or anyone else should let their guard down by any means). Everyone, the buyer and seller, should be doing their due diligence and researching accordingly so they do not get burned on trade deals.
Not really sure how much personal information is on this players Reddit account, if any. But the fact remains.. I don’t agree that possible personal information, no matter the situation, should have been shared like it was.Again politely, I didn't say it could have been worded better. I believe it was worded exactly as intended, them hoping to hand over just "several" arms for some particularly high-end items.
The proof is not just in their choice of language, but in whom they are targeting with those messages, returning players, and the manner of the approach, ie a direct message hidden from any public challenge by knowledgeable players. When you combine these elements, their intention is clear and obvious.
If they listed those items in the WTB thread and said they were willing to pay "several arms" for any of them, they'd be laughed off the forum (as they well know)!
I've zero sympathy for them, get the torches and pitchforks out.
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I'm interested if this goes to auction
Thanks for the interest, I'll be putting it up for auction on the w/e. I appreciate you probably keep an eye on the WTS thread but I'll make you aware.
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There’s a reason why there was mod intervention when this users Reddit information was shown, and also why it was removed.. There is no reason to post players private information on a public forum like that. With the amount of account breaches we have seen on this game, why help the crooks by posting players private info? Sure info is public and out there, but you might as well be giving them a map to that information. The player base is small in this game so we should be considerate of that. Have some common curtesy and think about if the roles were reversed. I know I would hate for any information of mine to be publicly posted like that.
Off topic: In regards to this users message, I see nothing wrong with asking if players have certain rare items or minis. 100% other players are out there doing the same thing, via messaging on here, in Kama, etc. What’s the harm in trying to get the first opportunity on buying said rare items before other players can? I can see how his message could have been misinterpreted though.
Whether he was being sincere or shameless as you put it, it’s all assumptions at that point unless there is clear evidence that the user is blatantly ripping people off.
I still don’t think that justifies posting potential private information about said user. Everyone should have a “right to privacy” in some regard but not really sure about the rules on this site, seems like they do have some rules about it since it was removed by mods.What's key in this is this phrase - "I can pay several arms for any of these if you have!!" - and who is being targeted by these message/s: returning players.
The combination of the two is tacit acknowledgement by the prospective buyer of an attempt to scam.
This person will plausibly know that the items they list as examples, such q7/q8 weapons, Asian minis etc, are worth considerably more than "several arms" and are focussing on individuals who won't immediately be aware of current market prices - returning players - and hoping to catch them unawares (yes, I'm fully aware this sort of thing will be going on regularly in Spamadan regardless).
If this person had said, "I'm interested in X items and these are currently the approx going rates for them but get some additional opinions on eg this website and then we can potentially talk" then fair enough.
We also need to be mindful of not victim blaming either, "they should have checked" etc. The GW community has a collective responsibility to call out and try and prevent unscrupulous player behaviour.
I don't mean for this reply to come across as impolite because you've entered the discussion in good faith, but respectfully I think you're taking it far too easy on them.
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"But I want to privately scam!"
Name and shame, protect returning players from potentially being ripped off.
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Thanks for the replies chaps, appreciated.
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OS, gold, 80g value, damage is 13-18 which I understand is max for q5 and the modifier is +15% when enchanted.
Worth anything or merch? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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100e on the archaic maul.
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Hi, as per the title I’m looking to sell:
-Q9 divine favor frog scepter (gv 212) and q9 divine favor celestial compass (gv 260).
-Q9 avian hammer (gv 240).
Reserve the right etc. Cheers
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Cheers for the replies guys, appreciated.
