Posts by Crayon

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Quote from Malice Black

Absolutely! The game is too old to be coodling anyone.

Perfect, lets remove all helpful/informative content on this site. Because screw anyone here if they don't know everything about this game!

Quote from Malice Black

cosyfiep - I'm making myself at home already

I LOVE your attitude. Literal ray of sunshine.

/s if you're Drax

Quote from Malice Black

Why?

It's down to the individual to do their homework on what they're buying. It's not the forums job to coddle anyone.

So your logic is that we shouldn't help/educate other players because it's their own fault if they don't know about these things? 100% Flawless. You seem like a lovely person.

Assuming you aren't a brand new account created to troll, I'm not sure OS is for you Sky.

Lets start the party on the dusk 50a

Quote from Ravenshaw

For me, the LEAST mods could do is to put a sticky like the tyrian serpent axe sticky they've got, so people can themselves decide if they wanna take the risk or not.

+1

Well there's been some really good feedback here and thank you all for the responses. I've received several PMs from people in game thanking me as they weren't aware this was possible as well.

Arnold Vavrek You raise a great point around trust. Ultimately this comes down to if you trust the seller or not. Personally, no matter what they say I wouldn't. I wanted this thread to highlight how easy and quick it is to check stats of unids. I'm sure most of us are adults here - if you love gambling feel free to waste your ectos/arms. The house always wins though and this is an exceptionally rigged gamble.

Disclaimer: This isn't a thread to start a witch hunt etc. I'm well aware many of us here have known this for over a decade but I've also met many people who don't. This topic has miffed me for a little while now....

So lets get to it!

For those who are unaware - you're able check what mods an unid item will have before ever IDing them. I'm not going to get bogged down into the specifics but I'm sure you all know the saying "a picture is worth a thousand words" so here's a couple of shields I found while running Pongmei this morning.

Here I have an unid shield equipped and my base health is 555.

In this next image you can see I now have an enchantment where my base health has jumped to 596 while the shield remains unid. Before ever IDing this shield I can conclude that it has a +41hp while enchanted mod

Lets have a look...

But while this is useful, can you also check for damage reduction mods? Yes, yes you can!

Here I have an unid bladed shield. I've taken my head armour off so I take some physical damage. As you can see I'm taking 2 damage from these little devourers - perfect.

I'll now put an enchantment on myself and see what happens. Oh look, I suddenly start taking 0 damage.

So before IDing the item I know it's going to have -2 damage while enchanted, there's no health while enchanted mod and there's no base health mod. Let's ID this bad boy!

This may seem like a really laborious task but I assure you if you had 20 unid shields in your inventory you'd be able to check through them all in a matter of minutes.

Armed with this knowledge it's ultimately up to you if you want to take the risk of buying unid shield packages for 20a or not. What bothers me is when a seller is selling unid packages but then also sells perfect shields that you'd imagine would be part of their unid packages in the very same thread. How did they know to ID those particular shields? Why was that particular shield not part of the unid package?

That my friends is up to you to decide!

Proposed solution

When unid packages are put up for sale, a clear disclaimer should be attached to it stating you can check for mods on weapons before IDing them and to buy at your own risk. I take no issue with people selling unids but lets educate our fellow players at least.

Interested to hear what others think about it. There's no need to share your degree certificates. That's all.

😘

Double disclaimer - I ran the chests myself as botters suck.

#Mos03 : OS Q9 dead bow 15^50 -- B/O : 2e

80a maglal perfekto

10/10 sword 10e

SW28 - 10e

SW19 - 10e

SW14 - 10e

75e shinobi

Won't PC the shield as I'm interested. Put it up for auction or pm me - whatever floats your boat

Quote from Pleikki

I dont see why it would matter, considering q7/8 etc items used to drop everywhere so you didnt need to farm some specific location for one, but they dropped while you just normally played through the game

^ This TBH.

My point above was that I don't think bots targeted q7/8s like OS items are targeted now. They wanted the gold to sell plat where I'm sure that any decent q7/8/9's they found along the way made its to the market (let's not forget perfect q9s were not cheap back then either).

I think Plekkis point is that there were literally millions of players back then and that it's far more likely these items dropped for players just normally playing the game which I agree with. Let's not also forget that while many bots did the boring/easy farms over and over again, many players did exactly the same farms as well.

I'm not actually all that convinced that they are. Most of the botters used to be at places like Granite where you'd see tons of them following the same path out into Tascas. They were just farming gold and would sell the white/blues to merch and then sell the plat for $. If we look pre-factions they were farming trolls outside Droks or Ettins outside Beetle - at least from what I remember seeing. There certainly wasn't the type of botting that we're seeing now targeting things like Magmas Shields that the community as a whole was aware of. (With the exception of Colossal Scimitars if anyone remembers that trend....)

The juiciest drops just came from the Ascy ID1 collectors scalping Droks/LA/KC for the lucky few who had these items drop and the closely guarded strongbox secret early on in the games life. Things were a little different then as it wasn't all that hard to come across q8s in trade areas/gwg, there was always someone selling one. That does come with the odd exception of skins like Dead Bows and Sephis Axes which were insanely rare even back then. I imagine much of what we see today in these huge collections are from collectors of old like coldplay/herb/wasabi/carnage etc.

While certainly not bot free, not to the extent we see today. (IMO)

100e - Platinum Staff 9 Fire Magic HCT Fire(20%)

100e - Platinum Staff 9 Earth Magic HCT Earth(20%)

80e - Platinum Staff 9 Water Magic HCT Water(20%)

Bump!

Flamberge Added

Lowered b/o on echo

500e

300e crysta

q9 15^50 Shadow Blade - 10e

25e cold mag

r/b on Gothic Sword q9 +5 Energy

bump

r/b added on echo

1. 10e

Bump -- sold a bunch of stuff

q9 +29hp -2wE Gloom - 100e

Sorry, retract on broadsword. Bought a q9 one.

Bump 

Added r/bs and b/o to most things. Still thinking about the echo/dv cren.

Precious?

Selling some stuff!

I will sell items in 24 hours once r/b is met and there are no higher bids.

Stuff:

q8 14^50 Flamberge r/b 8a

q8 14^50 Shadow Blade r/b 6a

OS Random stuff:

q9 +5e Jade Sword b/o 10e

q9 +5e Gothic Axe b/o 8e

q9 +5e Falchion b/o 8e

q9 +5e Wicked Blade b/o 8e

q9 +5e FDS b/o 15e

q11 +5e Runic Axe b/o 5e

q9 Channeling Dragon Staff 20/10

q9t Round Shield +10vsTengu -5/20%

q10t Round Shield -3wHex +10vsFire

Reserve the right not to sell blah blah balh dbalddhladbddxkcz

9 - 22a

q9 DF Platinum Staff 20/20 Heal - 30e

q9 +5e Broadsword - 15e

q9 +5e Fellblade - 15e

4 - 30a

#Mos05 - 10e (b/o?)

Sorry mate, retract. Bought a +29 -2wE in game.