Posts by cosyfiep

    Yeah, guru had a few good ideas, but when viewer-ship declined (and moderators became more scarce) some forums were put to rest--the high end one was one of those (it didnt help that guru's database was slower than snot at that time either---...when pages took 30 seconds or more to move...ah well, nevermind), and then remember the prefixes?
    If we were to bring it back 100e is no longer high end, heck, some people think that is the merch category! So let us mull that one over as well.

    I like the idea of ranges, its a good idea which I will let roam my unconscious mind for a while to see what it morphs into.

    Though I do need to point out an elephant that has been roaming around (and spotted by a few). What some players may think we you say merch----I have seen where people think that items under 10e are merch (what's ecto at now 8 or 9 plat?....so that would put an item just under 100 plat); for some people 10e is a LOT of money (I put myself in that class), merch for me is items that wont even get what mr merchant would pay for them (so under 500 gold for the most part). An item worth 1 or 2k is not merch to me, a hard sell perhaps, but not merch. So I think we need to clarify our terminology especially on things like merch, high end, etc and that would help out a great deal. (I know we had a thread on guru with all the terminology..will see if we can get that one moved over....)

    And the disclaimer about price checking being only an idea of what you might expect to start your items at (which I mentioned a long time ago in the minipet thread)...not the top, but a place to start. We also have to remember that sellers what to get the most for their items, while buyers are still looking for a good deal---we have lots of users who are primarily one or the other while some are both. We need to strike a middle ground so that no one feels ripped off when the sell or buy--and this can be helped by getting a good range when an item is price checked.

    so some good points so far!

    my example was of an item that 99% of the players would merchant.....and that only a rare one or two players might actually collect....for example the other day I was playing through an area, and some days it seems that certain weapons seem to drop, I got 5 of the almost exact same ax! I call this day an ax day, I have had multiple days where this has occurred (the reason why I started naming them). I sold them all to the merchant.
    It was an EXAMPLE of what MOST people would merchant the second part clarifying the first part--as low level areas seem to drop those weapons, see? I was not clumping together, as you put it. (you are more likely to get a non-max white drop in a low level area)
    Anyways. I do not do price checks of weapons (rarely I do), I do, however, moderate. I do read all of the price checks as part of that moderation (and have been doing so for many years). I would like a better method for doing price checks as well. The 'economy' that you say, is currently around it is almost impossible to keep up to date--it would be an around the clock job to keep up with what everyone thinks is prized, and I highly doubt there are many players left that have that kind of time to put to this, so what we are left with is people who are trying to keep up when they have time. Yes, this has left some people out of date (which is also the reason for the price check section), and I dont see this changing anytime soon. It would be like trying to hold the wind in your hand or stopping time to keep everyone up to date.
    What do you want us to do besides what we are currently doing to moderate? We do enforce the rules, but we dont want to become the kind of mods that everyone hated (if you were around during the old guru days you know who I am speaking about). I dont want to ban everyone in a thread that gets out of hand---that is a bit too harsh, we allow for this, but we still need to make sure that those kind of threads are the extremely rare occurrences. So if you have ideas, let the mod team know.

    how exactly would you enforce people low balling price checks?

    and I will stand by my statement of MOST items (white, non max, bad req) dropped in low level areas are merch food...yeah, there might be one or two collectors out there for them, but unless the person who happened to have it drop for them can find that individual and get a few plat/ecto for said item .....

    no, they would like to remove it, however, it will remain---merching items is about 90% of items picked up---people just need to know when to sell to him or when to sell to others, that is part of the price check forum's purpose and it will not change. There will always be items that will be merch only (see: white non max no mod low level high req items...or just about any item dropped in low level areas).
    Until everyone who plays knows what is valuable to everyone else there will always be items that price check as merch (since the criteria for the first part can never occur).

    Its good for when you make new characters. You can get skills for free. Also good until you have unlocked all the hero skills for newer accounts to get heroes up to speed.


    What would be nice is if you have already unlocked those skills on your account for them to not show up at the hero skill trainers ---still need them at the character skill trainer, since once unlocked they are good for all heroes with that profession (primary or secondary).

    In response to point 1 Agent made (no text and no 'merch' option). sometimes you MUST qualify what you are saying--just putting down 10e or 2-4a will NOT answer the OP questions. Also sometimes MERCH IS the best answer---there are some items that are really just not worth even posting in the price check section (90% of drops these days are not worth picking up let alone carrying them TO the merchant), and sometimes you need to qualify why its a merchant item: non max, white, stupid mods, etc so that the person receiving the price check will learn (ok, if its non-max with this mod I do not need to ask for a price check in the future....), also for those reading the threads in the future to see: UserA asked for a very similar item to be pc'd 2 months ago....I see that its worth 50e...so I should be able to put it up for sell with that as a starting bid!.
    Also sometimes a number just cant be put on an item....how much is a kanaxai worth these days? or an UNDED panda?? (sorry these are examples of which I know are very high prices so I am using them as examples).

    A price check team would be nice, but remember not everyone has the time to devote to doing this task and not all who do price checks are good with all areas (as has been mentioned), so adding someone to that team would require our current legacy team to basically interview each candidate and make sure they are good in every area---not an easy task nor one that our current team signed up for. Yes it would be nice to have a group of price checkers, but I just dont see it happening with the state of the game etc.

    Price check is for price checking of an item. Discussion is for discussing. If someone feels that there is (has been) too much of the 2nd in the first--let me know and it will be dealt with. I have no issues with folks making threads in discussion about price checks they have had--or items they want to talk more about, PLEASE do! We try to keep most of the Xunlai Market free of talk, which is precisely why the discussion forum came to be. We try to enforce the rules laid down in the stickied post and keep our feathers out of it.
    So make threads here in discussion, if you have issues with other members--send me (or Max, Kevin, Marty) a pm and we will talk with them.
    So let's keep this snowball fight, cold icy and fun! (well you get the idea :P)