Posts by PyroLobster
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This discussion had a great many blog posts boiling down to one central point:
"I would rather be a collector of prized possessions in a dead game than share them with a larger playerbase."
What many dont seem to understand: even if you reverse everything that is prenerf or currently limited, there will be always extremely rare postnerf drops that will be unobtainable for most of the players. Item-communism is not the right answer to reanimate an old game.
This guy gets it ^
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This discussion had a great many blog posts boiling down to one central point:
"I would rather be a collector of prized possessions in a dead game than share them with a larger playerbase."
Because removing prenerf aspect of the game is the only way to get a larger player base?
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I like the discussion that's happening, but we really don't have to start attacking people's character just because we have differing opinions. c0ntrolla PyroLobster
Agreed, this isn't productive anymore so this will be my last reply. We at a stage where everybody who appreciates scarcity is "insecure in real life."
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You‘re such a loser. Imagine crying about your precious OS weapon losing value. Can’t sympathize with you I’m sorry, here’s to them hopefully introducing more stuff that devalues your items 🙏🏼 imagine comparing pixels in a game to a Rolex lmfao. Supporting a “you had to be there“ mindset is so toxic to gamers and keeps new players from joining. It creates a fomo that is so unhealthy for gaming. You need to stop treating a game economy like an asset and shareholder simulator and have fun through gameplay. Again this most likely has to do with age though I guess… older people seem more upset about this. I genuinely don’t care that my mini panda has lost its prestige and value, if anything, I‘m happy that I can now have it on my irondhuum because I love pandas. Long live 2weeks ❤️
I think you really are major salty about that Panda dude. Serious "just want to watch the world burn" vibes now
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it should be fun and not require grinding 1000s of hours to get a pixel.
This ^
Its the difference between Type 1 and 2 enjoyment. The reward at the end of the grind is the fun. Remove the grind necessity and you remove the fun from the payoff.
Your attitude absolutely stinks of resentment. Those people who played longer or harder must now be punished because others want the rewards without the effort it took to attain them?
There are always items essentially unobtainable (or VERY hard to get) for us all. The solution isn't make them all common so everybody can have one. You only wanted it because it was hard to get. (Even more so in a game where you get no advantage, its fashion wars!)
Using your way of thinking we should put hench tonics in bday gifts so everybody can get one. The result will be mass merching like all the other shit tonics because it isnt what they are that makes people want them.
If you play because you like the content then you shouldn't care very much what rare items others have (especially when they impart no advantage in content / can have the aesthetic another way. eg os vs inscri Cry ) - I know loads of people like this
If you play because you like to grind to acquire the rare stuff then you don't want said items removed or massively diminished. - I know loads of people like this
In either case (or in a mix of both), making rare stuff common pleases nobody in the end. Apart from maybe somebody who thinks in a competitive trading game that everyone should be "equal" somehow and effort / advantages should have no rewards to keep it that way.
Do new players really want a game where nothing is very difficult to get? Where nothing is truly special? Where the progression ladder has been made purposely short?
The beautiful thing about GuildWars which few other games ever replicated is it catered for both types of fun (Type 1 and 2) really well. Because max gear is so easy to attain (+ super quick lvling) you could enjoy all the content very quickly without endless gear grind. BUT if you liked the grind payoffs you could also do that and get rare gear to look cool (also allowed for collecting of all kinds). Some items being prenerf helped this greatly considering rampant bots throughout. This balance is what made the game great imo and why its still going 20 years on. If you start changing either side in a haphazard way (like is being done) you will undo what made it great. -
what do we think?
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Almost everything that Pre was is now destroyed. Most of the restrictions that made it what it was are gone. LDoA is now pretty meaningless as its so easy to attain. You can play with a hero that has all skills. Gear limits are obliterated and items everybody worked hard for are now so suboptimal as to be worthless. Inscri weapons ruined the continuity of it being part of proph. Not surprised the hype disappeared so quickly. I was never a big Pre player but the changes are horrifically bad. It feels like a weird hybrid mix of all campaigns made my somebody throwing random ingredients at a recipe without understand what there are trying to make. Adding the dungeon is ok, maybe even even low req OS golds as a very rare reward for doing would have freshen it up nicely but what has now been created is awful. Saw the term on another thread and its perfect, Pre has been "post-ified". Looks to me like all changes where cheap hype to get everybody excited again but now the dust has settled what we have been left with sucks.
What is the point of Pre anymore when its now so similar to the rest of the game? It being different was its appeal wasn't it?
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45 (Forgot about the caster one) OS Gold Crysta for sale just in the top few wts posts. A pair of Krytan Axes and a few Serpents. Probably more than have been for sale in the past 5 years. These items are all going to become merchfood in a few months.I care in the sense that its a shame to see 20 years of these things being unobtainium reversed overnight. First minipets, then max/gold pre items, now these rare skins. They might as well just add Q7's, Swamp Clubs, Dwarven Axes back to the drop table, put storage in pre, and drop EL Reindeer and Henchmen tonics into the Zaishen chest and lets call it a day. The attitude by some game dev clearly seems to be that everything should be attainable for everyone, so lets just make it so.
What a sad perspective to have. This is their exact point, things should be attainable for everyone, not just veterans of 20 years. With the surge of new players it’s unattractive to have stuff that they could only afford by playing for years. Imagine starting a new game and there‘s a bunch of items that aren’t obtainable anymore and everyone is flexing on you with these cool looking skins/minis. People that are against that are weird entitled beings with huge ego over pixels. Let others have fun too, it’s been 21 years lmao. Thank god they finally add unobtainable items 🙏🏼 praise 2weeks!
Sounds great until you think about it for more than 10 seconds. When everything is easily attainable to everyone what exactly are you playing for? Its fashion wars, the content is limited. Grinding hard as hell to get something to flex is basically the whole game. When everyone can have a OS Cry nobody will want one, bad non max mods/reqs are likely already going in to the merch or will be in the near future. The reason they were desired was because NOT everybody could have one. You had to invest serious time into the game in order to get one via any means because of fixed supply. You had to work really hard and long to get the reward. If you just wanted the skin inscri was there for you. Having things really hard to get is GOOD. Its things to work towards, its a challenge, its what keeps you playing the same 20+ year content over and over and over. Stopping really rare stuff being rare so that new players don't get salty that some guy who played for 50k hours over 20 years has more than them is obviously self defeating because that same new player now has less stuff to work towards. He wont play 50k hours for 20 years because he has to reason to now. He will put that once near priceless Krytan Axe in the bin because its now worthless. Nobody cares if you have one, nothing to flex. Scarcity is the only thing that gave it value, once removed its just a Hand Axe with a different name. All this applies to everything else they have messed with: Asian minis and Pre (what a giant shitshow
). Everyone gets a Panda YAY!!! ........oh wait no one gives a fuck now because the pet itself wasnt THAT cool, you only wanted it because it was VERY hard to get.
"With the surge of new players it’s unattractive to have stuff that they could only afford by playing for years"
^ Take the solution to this to its end point. Everything that was prenerf is removed or now postnerf. Everybody has basically the same attainable weapons, armor and mini pets as nothing is fixed supply. Drastically less people play for years because nothing is really special and grinding another 100hr to get something everybody else has / will have doesn't seem very appealing. You have removed one of the main incentives to keep playing. Lots of old players who kept the game going all those years leave because they kept getting screwed by updates to keep new mobile players happy (who were never going to play long term anyway). Sounds great
FYI: I never owned anything that has been changed by updates so I havn't been effected myself. Although I expect to be soon, hope it makes those new players happy
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This hurt my feelings
don't you have a collection for heartbreaker ?
IF so, that's a win-win situationYes its a great one for the 9vs pile
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bump, new stuff
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Made this one :
Names are reserved for 1h only, i had Macron but i lost it when i wanted to redo it
In effect, the 24-hour reserve has been reduced..
Can anybody else confirm this?
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plagueborn focus q9 fc 10e
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Definitely need bigger bags. I thought you didnt like minis
Dunno what you mean. I love minis
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dont merch please
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real questsions though... what the stats on the shield?
and imagine just years ago an inv with kana, ig, cera, panda would have sent waves through the community lol.
Nothing interesting. Inscribable
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Pretty confident that is the first Smite Crawler to drop for a Melandru
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Leaving this deathless turned out to be a good call
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Been playing some MA with a couple mates and found it interesting (and funny
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Got me thinking what other people are holding onto and why with the limited space. So show me what you got
I'm taking up space with minis because reasons. Gemstones are to get an armbrace and a shinny tormented shield I think.
Also I know I badly need to get bigger bags before anybody says it.
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Off max but pretty cool for a MA
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Major nostalgia vibes today smite farming on ironman and getting ectos
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Bronze guardian q10 plants - 1a
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damn that q3 cleaver is so sexy. so perfect. and... yeah I'll get you a q3 gold istani if you get me a gold q3 tower
Ready when you are
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