Posts by Spun Ducky

10a naga bow

25a skeletor

Quote from Kabong

Gw is lucky i didn't work on it as that shield would have been in game as an easter egg.

q7 skele 10a

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#2 5a

#3 5a

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That DV summit axe makes my day.

+10 armor vs fire / -3 while hexed Gloom shield Q9 tact -- 50e

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r/b q8 14>50 spatha

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Quote from Shaya

Alright, alright!

Thanks for the answers - guess I will focus on Q8s =D

A few of those even will cost a fortune. Q8 +5e dusk blade has had an unfulfilled bounty of 3000a by haendler for years. Then any proph skin is nearly non existent and would be nuts besides the nice canthan skins.

I can also think of 2 that are customized besides the ones Max mentioned and also same deal being canthan skins.

100e heal magma

50e healing mag

My fun from gw comes from build making, solo farming, and in the past speed clearing. Much like early concepts I treat gw much like card games of designing decks so to speak. I am very much a min/max person which when combined with farm build making that means I need very rare weapons. it is the min/max situation that got me collecting things like q7 swords, dual reduction shields, and all sorts of very odd stat combos in the search of the perfect farm known and unknown to me currently.

So to put it simply I collect to always have the correct item for strange farms I make that in some cases are only possible with very rare and specific items. As far as out of game collecting I haven't really collected much of anything for a long time although I have my comics from the 60s and 70s still and I would say I probably collect vintage and odd tools for metal/wood working I do as a hobby. I suppose the hundreds of computers and bins of parts I have in my home labs probably would count as a collection although its a hobby and used for work/self teaching.

I would say collecting in the game is more toxic in general than real life simply because people are held less accountable for scams. A high end painting for example carries a far bigger investment of the simple time to money conversion than the time to accumulate in game wealth to get a crystalline for example.

310a sss

15a maplewood

120a serpent

180a sss

q8 sss 150a

I got a shiny new bow, so good day for sure.

q27 q8 13>50 gladius

pm11 q12 fellblade 12 vs hexed

pm12 q9 summit 18 hexed

pm7 war hammer rams

q9 12>50 stormbow

q25 13>50 flamberge

50e on each of these

Reserve on these 2:

pm8

pm9

1250e q8 13>50 war hammer

i owned a q7 15-21 crystalline in 2005. It was sold to lady blue steel. Not sure on others. Never heard of a max though.

Quote from Unholy

DV/DZ inherents were a thing when max r7 weps dropped right? Are there any max r7 dv/dz known to exist? Specifically any rares? (To my knowledge that inherent didn't use to be exclusive to rares. I think this was before the update that improved the quality of mods on dropped weapons. Feel free to correct if I'm wrong)

I feel like there is probably a q7 with DV/DZ floating around but can't think of one off the top of my head. Hopefully someone can chime in on that one. You are correct though that DV/DZ use to be possible on purple items along with the 15% -5e mod as well such as this one I own.

Q10 Tac Crude Shield 2^Stance Curses +1 20% 10e on that guy

Quote from Seven

Ah yea, I especially Like Q7 Twin. So the Q7s re even rarer than Q8 swamps Kabong?

Impossible to say which was really rarer, although both were stupidly rare. In the time period those items dropped people didn't quite know what was actually rare and lots of players just merched or quit early on with unicorn items never knowing their value. In something we can measure though, there are more q8 swamp clubs floating around than q7 hammers off the top of my head. So modern day if anyone had a stroke and decided to sell either one, a swamp club in q8 would be more likely imo.

I never saw a q7 gold or purple oni blade, but there was a white q7 max oni blade that actually sold in the last year.

Quote from Unholy

Probably stands to reason that a r7/16 Outcast could be possible as well? I wasn't around when max r7s drop and I don't quite know what requirements (as far as mob level etc) they had, but wouldn't anything that can drop r8/16 today be possible at 7/16 back then?

That should cover everything up to and including drops possible in Pong Mei. Theoretically q8/16 Outcasts should currently be possible as the deathhands are the appropriate level.

q7/16 outcast was technically possible but highly unlikely to have ever dropped. Basically the current day q8 requirements are what use to be the q7 in a crude simplified version. So lvl 17-21 mobs or canthan chest for Factions drops. In the case of outcast deathhands, yes they can drop q8 outcast shields, however there isn't any large grouping of them to farm. It is also worth keeping in mind that during the prenerf era for q7 items build wise and player skill would have not been able to solo farm them in the amount required to have any shot at all for a q7. Even with all the broken modern pve skills and updates outcast are not an easy mob to farm. I also want to point out in that time period mobs would use chillblains against obby flesh, spell breaker, and shadow form to strip them. Mobs currently don't do that.

For sure I have seen personally or owned or 100% trust the source:

Spiked Targe

Celestial Shield(One for sale right now actually)

Plagueborn Shield

Emblazoned Defender(Infamous for the most well known one that was salvaged)

guardian of the hunt(Only 2 known in q7/16 and single mod junk)

Bladed Shield

iridescent aegis

diamond aegis

bronze shield(one in PHD guild, thanks raining)

Some highly likely ones but never had reason to believe it dropped and made it to trade circles:

Ornate shield

echovald shield

embossed aegis

gothic defender

amber aegis

30a Mauso bow

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250e

in game: Melandrus Essence

#14 5e

#20 5e

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90a q8 sephis axe

85a eternal

75a eternal

65a eternal

1: 20e

5: 20e

Don't sell to private messages and put up for sale here, I have a feeling its at least a 20a shield.

Quote from Ostona

This is the only information I've found (page 181 of the Prima Guide in .PDF):

But after page 181 I've read all the tables of materials listed below and NONE mentions the Brick of Mud or Clay Brick. The item is mentioned a few times in the guide (the collector that requires this material, etc) but then, nothing else in the entire guide. Nothing at all.

So, we have the statement of some users from GW Guru saying that this item indeed dropped, others saying that this item never dropped to them, and this text from the guide saying that can be obtained with normal savage kits (but the weapon to savage is never mentioned).

If the info of the guide regarding the savage kits is correct (let's assume it) according to what Spun Ducky said: "Prima guides were written before the game release" then the Brick of Mud was available in the beta in the Ascalon Foothills, and removed in the game release itself (the item, not the collector, I mean).

There's a bit of chaos here with the understanding of all the info. It would be easier if an HONEST developer said once and for all: "Yes, this item was available and it could be obtained from <whatever>" or "No, this item was designed but never implemented." and "We removed this item at this point <whatever>."

But well, at this point in 2020 is useless to think about it, I don't even know if there is still someone from that time working at ArenaNet currently.

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Sadly even if there is a dev left the odds of them having worked on that specific thing and even remembering is near zero. The other sad thing about trying to answer questions like this is that guild wars was created prior to modern source control for the most part. The cornerstones of the industry now a days is Git and Team Foundation Server that didn't exist yet at gw release. There were earlier versions of SVN(Subversion) but game studios tend to be hectic so its quite possible they quite literally would just zip up folders of files to merge into the main folder so to speak with each patch leaving no notes or history.

It is this very chaotic reason that I suspect a lot of questions or miscommunications have happened from PR reps over the years because quite literally they don't have a historical reference or anyone to ask. My personal opinion is that they were a salvage/drop in early betas and scrapped before release but they never cleaned up the traders until a few years later. The other problem is gw has had a lot of what I call shadow updates, sometimes very large and game changing but they never officially acknowledge there was a patch. These updates tend to fix things they don't want to talk about or someone in the chain didn't deem worthy of notes.

Since you are looking into quite ancient topics that few players are left from around then I will share my perspective as a closed beta player. I never personally saw a clay brick or Brick of Mud. The spot where majority of players first encountered them as even existing was in ascalon foothills. There is a crafter there that was the first spot in game that offered them as far as I know. I went back in wiki history and you can see he at one point did offer to craft clay bricks. I can't say for certain if they dropped in beta as that was a very long time ago and everyone was more focused on play than long term stuff. I do think you might get a joy out of flipping through the prima guide though for historical stuff. Prima guides were written before the game release so they were chocked full of wrong information at release however since all the info was gathered from betas they can be quite neat historically.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?titl…ger&oldid=72556

https://archive.org/details/Guild_…aGames/mode/2up

The prima guide is a fun look into all sorts of things that changed or got removed between beta and release.

While the generic term most use is keyless chest, these "chests" actually had many names and different models. Iron strongbox, lockbox, barrel, stash, and many others I can't remember. They sometimes had a similar theme to the area it was found in. Yes, they were all removed except the previously mentioned spots and now we have a randomized chest spawn location for locked chests. Interesting enough where some of these statically located keyless chests use to spawn tend to be areas where locked chests spawn.

Edit: One of the things for the museum I have wanted to add is take pictures of locations where keyless chests use to spawn. I don't remember near all of them just mainly the ones I farmed but I am sure others could show spots too.