Posts by Oldschool Cool
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It might be worth mentioning, yesterday I dropped a Raven staff in a HM chest. It didn't know that was even possible as the wiki mention they only drop in the Shiverpeaks and the Fire islands.
Screenshot below :
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Someone here is an expert in OS Raven staves ?
The wiki mention they only drop in the Southern Shiverpeaks, Ring of Fire Islands, and TopK.
But yesterday I got one in a chest while farming the Elona Reach Mission (in the crystal desert). So here is my question : can Raven staves drop on random mob in the desert ? Or is it limited to some weird chest ?
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Some contribution for 16, 21 and 32 in max AR.
EDIT : My bad Pequeno was faster than me for the 16hp
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q8 11-15 Double Zeal sunqua blade = 5e
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Vielen Dank German Wiki !
As I said in my previous post the German Wiki is the only one that provide screenshots of green items, and another good thing about the Wiki is that you can access all the previous version of a picture (here for example) !
Thanks to that I have been able to find a ton of new prenerf green staves. As all those screenshots have a baseline 20% HSR, we can confirm they actually still exist in the game.
This confirm my suspicion that almost all the proph and faction staves have a pernerf version with mixed order (with some exception like the staves that lack and HSR or some stat combo like +5AR +5AR or +30hp +30hp). I will soon update my main post with the new staves.
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Yep it's definitively prenerf. Even better both stats are prenerf, the current minimum is +56 while hexed and +8 vs lightning.
I know some people collect shield with double prenerf stats but it's hard to guess a price. You know the drill create a WTS and see where it goes.
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Your Kaolin is the current version.
Below is one that was dropped a few months ago :
If a prenerf version exist i'm pretty sure the +1/20 prot and the +30hp are in the other order (Like the Kaolin domination staff)
The English wiki isn't reliable when it comes to the HCT/HSR order, you can try to use the german wiki that has screenshot instead of text. For example german Galigord stone staff.
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Yep that's a new one for the list ! Thanks Pleikki for letting me check in game.
But don't always trust the English Wiki, sometimes the mod order is just wrong. On Jayne for example the the wiki say : HSR / HCT prot when the real mod order is HCT prot/HSR. For Illyana staff the Wiki list +15 energy when it's in fact +10e +5e.
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That's a great find, I will add it to the list !
I guess we can see some kind of a pattern with the mixed mod order : it's always the last 2 mod of the staff. So far we have confirmed that the +20% ench can change (Kepkhet, Kyril), the +30 hp (Milius, Illyana, Wenslauss etc) and the +1/20% (Kaolin and now Stonereaper).
That also mean that beyond those already listed, 80% of the green staves from proph or faction may have a prenerf version.
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Triple prof plat wand = 2a (just to confirm the offer)
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=> This thread is outdated, please refer to the new official thread on prenerf green here : Greens
Click on the spoiler to see the historical thread :
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When it comes to prenerf greens, the Wiki and the legacy threads are kinda lacking so I decided to compile a list of all the currently known prenerf greens.
Please note that this list is still a work in progress, feel free to check your own greens and to contribute !
CONFIRMED prenerf greens with different stats - 4
Name Type Location Update IG Info Screenshot Ziinjuu's Sanctuary Staff Faction - Shing Jea 09/12/2006 X Totally different stats Link Wroth's Holy Rod Wand Prophecies - SF 09/12/2006 X Totally different stats, different color Link Wayward wands (*5) Wand Faction - End reward 24/04/2008 X Unobtainable stat combo : DF/Heal, DF/Prot, Domi/Inspi, Illu/Inspi, SP/resto Link Faith Staff Faction - WoC 2012 ? The prenerf version is lacking it's 20% HSR Link
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CONFIRMED prenerf green with a different mod order (and sometimes a different color) - 25
Name Type Location IG Info Screenshot Kepkhet's Refuge Staff Prophecies - World X Different mod order Link Wenslauss' Faith Staff Prophecies - ToPK X Different mod order Link Illyana's Staff Staff Prophecies - ToPK X Different mod order Link Milius' Pillar Staff Prophecies - ToPK X Different mod order Link Kole's Torment Staff Prophecies - ToPK X Different mod order Link Willcrusher Staff Prophecies - SF X Different mod order, different color Link Brohn's Staff Staff Prophecies - SF X Different mod order Link Gorrel's Staff Staff Prophecies - SF X Different mod order Link Kaolin Domination Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color, slightly different icon Link Kaolin Protection Staff Staff Faction - Main island Different mod order (color to be confirmed) Link (Ger) Kaolin Water Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color, slightly different icon Link 1
Link 2Kaolin Accursed Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order (same color) Link Kyril's Fervor Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, different color (shaft) Link Milthuran's Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, different color (shaft) Link 1
Link 2Jayne's Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color (handle), slightly different icon Link Scourgewind's Branch Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color (handle), slightly different icon Link 1
Link 2Stoneweaver Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color (handle) Link 1
Link 2The Stonereaper Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, slightly different color, slightly different icon Link Spiritgarden's Repose Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order but exact same color Link Kaswa's Gluttony Staff Faction - Main island Different mod order (color to be confirmed) Link (Ger) Siska's Staff Staff Faction - Main island Different mod order (color to be confirmed) Link (Ger) Ghial's Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order (slightly different color) Link Kenrii's Sorrow Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order Link Hukhrah's Staff Staff Faction - Main island X Different mod order, different color Link Arius' Sai Daggers Faction - Main island +5e inherent at the bottom. Only known non-staff with a diff mod order. Link Display Spoiler
CONFIRMED prenerf green with a different Color only - 65
Name Type Location IG Info Screenshot Handsmasher Staff Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Flint's Artifact Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color. The prenerf is way more green. There might also exist one with a different icon (see here) Link The Soulstone Focus Prophecies - SF X Very different color (the prenerf is light fushia and the current is dark purple) Link Gorrel's Cane Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color, the prenerf has a pink/purple tint. And the current version is grey. Link Forgotten Fan Focus Prophecies - World X Different color, different inventory icon Link Ogre slaying Knife Sword Prophecies - TopK X Different color. There might also exist one with a different icon (see here) Link Vera Hammer Faction - Main Island X Very very small color difference (handle). Link Lians'Lantern Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color, the current version is greener Link Strongroot's Shelter Shield Faction - Main Island X Different color (prenerf=darker), different inventory icon Link 1
Link 2The Time Eater Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Bazzr's Wail Wand Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Byzzr's Benediction Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Zarnas' Wrath Focus Faction - Main island Different color / Tahkayun's Pincers Daggers Faction - Shing Jea X Different color, different inventory icon Link Chkkr's Pincers Daggers Faction - Main Island X Different color, different inventory icon (same as Thakayun) Link Brohn's Holy Rod Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color Link The Scar Eater Staff Faction - Main Island X Very very small color difference Link The Stonehart Focus Prophecies - SF X Very different color Link The Yakslapper Staff Prophecies - SF X Different color (handle) Link Ziinfaun's Belief Wand Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Kole's Gauntlet Focus Prophecies - TopK X Different color Link Rot's Putrescence Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Sourbeak's Taint Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link The Shadestone Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Kai's Sword Sword Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color (handle) Link Merki's Gaze Shield Faction - Main Island X Different color and different icon color Link Sskai's Sword Sword Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color (handle) Link Tarnen's Shield Shield Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Victo's Maul Hammer Prophecies - TopK X Slightly different color (handle) Link Galigord's Stone Scroll Focus Prophecies - SF X Slightly different color (rings around the crystals) Link Koosun's Fire Staff Staff Faction - Main Island X Different color (greener) Link Runar's Brimstone Staff Staff Prophecies - SF X Different color (metal part) Link The Pain Eater Focus Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color Link Daggers of Xuekao Daggers Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color (handle) Link Kaolin Daggers Daggers Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color (darker) Link Shreader's Talons Daggers Faction - Main Island X Different color, different inventory icon Link Vokur's Chakram Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color (darker) Link Vokur's Cane Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color (darker) Link Razortongue's Recurve Bow Bow Faction - Main Island X Slightly different color Link Garbok's Chalice Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Wing's Axe Axe Faction - Main Island X Different color (handle) Link The Brimstone Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Baubao's Shell Shield Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Orosen's Staff Staff Faction - Main Island X Different color (handle) Link Vokur's Staff Staff Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Illyana's Mirror Focus Prophecies-TopK X Different color Link Korvald's Chakram Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Wingstorm Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Ritual Lord's Staff Staff Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Mossbeard's Wand Wand Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Kaolin Wand Wand Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Kenshi's Butterfly Daggers Daggers Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Frozen Fan Focus Prophecies - General X Different color Link Tarlok's Flagon Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Shen's Censure Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Incetol's Focus Focus Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Gordac's Holy Rod Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Bortak's Bone Cesta Focus Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Woe Spreader Staff Faction - Main Island X Different color Link The Stonebreaker Hammer Faction - Main Island X Very different color Link The Ugly Stick Hammer Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Jacqui's Aegis Shield Faction - Main Island X Different color Link Brimstone Wand Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Galigord's Rod Wand Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Flint's Fleshcleaver Staff Prophecies - SF X Different color Link Display Spoiler
POTENTIAL prenerf green with different stats, contribution needed
Sahan Staff.
See more info here : RE: Info and research on prenerf greens (updated 29 Sept)
POTENTIAL prenerf green with a different mod order, contribution needed
Buldgeoner Link (Fr) and Gordac Needle, see more info in the new official thread
POTENTIAL prenerf green with a different color, contribution needed
The list was outdated and has been removed.
List of green that have been changed/updated (the old version doesn't exist anymore unless proven otherwise)
Name Update Info Link The Rockmolder 13/06/2006 Used to have 20% HSR instead of 10%. Link Shiro's blades 20/12/2006 Used to be req 15 instead of req Q13. / Shiro's Sword 20/12/2006 Used to be req 15 instead of req Q13. / Hassin's Shell 20/12/2006 Used to give +10 armor instead of +8. / Stygian Recurve Bow 27/09/2007 Used to behave like a longbow instead of a recurved bow. / WiK greens 25/05/2010 For a short period of time WiK greens could be upgraded. All were fixed. Link Imperial Dragon Spear Around 2012 Used to have +20% ench and +30hp. All were fixed Phoenix's Retribution 16/02/2012 Used to drop without an inscription. All were fixed. Link Iceblood's Warstaff ??? Originally featured a single HCT 40% mod, instead of two HCT 20% mods Link Fervorborn Staff ??? Originally misspelled as "Ferverborn Staff." All were corrected. Link -
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Aegis Q9tac +30hp -3whexed = 50e
SotW Q9tac -3wHexed +30hp = 50e
SotW Q11tac +60wHexed -3wHexed = 15e
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how is it verstaile when the you have no hct for insp,but 38% hsr?
if it really was perfect set as a versatile mesmer you should have 19/20 on hsr and hct for insp as you have for illusion.
That's a fair point.
Here are some non-perfect but truly versatile sets
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BUMP, Jump to page 1
Cleaned and updated my WTB. Added a finder fee (1 arm) for some of the prenerf rune. Added some new oldies that I want to buy.
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