Posts by Urgoz

It was a gold q7 tact 16AR Round Shield, +35ench single modder. Unfortunately, I've gotten like 5 new computers since 2006 and no screen still exists. All I can say for sure is that I know for a fact it dropped off a Desert Griffon. Specifically, it dropped off the group near Featherfist.

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Is there any difference today on level range of foes dropping max items? Can lvl16 drop drop max dmg hammer for example if it can drop max sword

since the min value for a max damage item is type-dependent there can be a difference: lvl 15 goes up to 31g, lvl 16 up to 35g, lvl 17 up to 39 and all the type dependent min values for max damages of the q8 possible types is in this scope. some of the other weapon types however start dropping at 36,37 or even 38g for max ones, which means those indeed cannot drop on lvl 16. so a lvl 16 mob cannot drop a max damage axe, hammer, bow, dagger...

but for realistic measures: only a max q8 foc, maybe even a shield have realistic chances to drop on lvl 16 as max q8, sword already is in the 1 in 10s of billions chance.

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Can still find old videos of people griffon farming back before the nerf. They were level 21, and they dropped q7.

do you have a link to such a vid, where a q7 drops? or a screen from back in the day? I did try to find some but had no success - same as today for q8s on them - hearing they do drop, but never seen a drop.

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If I got this from lvl 15, lvl 16 for sure drop max items, or maybe I confused.

that one is pretty far off max and actually a rather low value one (10-21g unid, by the ident value and the min further restricted by the info it dropped on lvl15 to 17g, so a rather low value ine within their range one, which is more common. the very high value ones are immensely rare - depending on lvl and unid value range a max value one can have a chance as low as 0.005% - that is 1 in 20k items.). this one certainly does not prove or disprove anything concerning max damage hammers on lvl 16.

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Don't think I can find you a video of a q7 dropping specifically. But here is a video showing that the griffons were level 21:

Can guarantee you they dropped q7s. Was the first q7 drop I ever got. One of those things you never forget.

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I set thos thread aside to answer, but never came around to do so. so basically the q8 back then was the q9 of today. roundabout. the q0 back then was tge q0 today. everything in between is stretched in a linear way, but the values of damage ranges etc. are distinct integers, so linearization necessarily leads to rounding, which is why some more weapon types could generate a max damage at the same time as a q7. so far on that.

you can tell by the range of values of the identified items what the range of the unidentified ones must have been and by that again what mob - or more precisely what level of drop source would have dropped them. sadly it is very unlikely for the upper range of the limit to occur which makes that a hard to find value. but I did scan many collections and found identified q7s in a range thus that the underlaying value range exactly matches the one of todays q8s. and they consequently were able to drop on the same level of drop source, which is 16-20. with that there have been plenty mobs in the respective ranges, you can look them all up, but all core skins can have dropped as well as most the skins that are specific to a mob type (like dead staff for undead), where a mob in the required level range exists. on top there have been keyless chests in the relevant range in riverside province that could have generated pretty much ALL the wepon skins in max q7, but they weren't popular, the pool was immense and the chance for a max q7 like the chance for a q8 today. so best run a couple thousand sf chests today to get a feel of how unlikely that'd be.

now the different weapon types have slightly different ranges of unid value they could drop as max q7s: the "max" statement gives a weapon-type-specific range of unid values that sets the lower border and the "q7" statement gives a range that sets the upper border. so the lower limit is type-dependent, whilst the upper limit is identical.

Can still find old videos of people griffon farming back before the nerf. They were level 21, and they dropped q7.

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I buy those few months ago and can't find any info about the second one, can someone enlighten me ?

For the 1st it was the prenerf version of this one https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Minaar%27s_Trouble

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So I was able to find this old guide from 2005, and it does have the reward from Shiverpeak Stragglers being a q5 13-20 War Hammer. It doesn't list out the stats unfortunately, but I suspect it is from this quest.

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