Posts by PyroLobster
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k2 100e
dwham1 100e
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1b - 300e
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k2 50e
dwham1 50e
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k2 15e
dwham 15e
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"The project goal is to find out exactly how rare items are"
Isnt this a touch pointless? Such data is of little use if it makes no diffrence to ur choices. What does it matter if you can show the Outcast drop rate is 0.1% rather than 0.2%? The result is the same, to get an Outcast shield that isn't gona get merched you playing the lottery with lockpicks. No amount of you opening the same chests is going to change the already known fact that if you want a good one u open an outcast chest and pray. This will be the same result wherever you go "data collecting" which in terms of possible locations is going to be very limited anyway. At best you going to find some interesting little known bits of info (Skin XYZ drops from this chest but not in purple).
If you wana do it, fill ya boots but the outcome will have almost no effect on anything. People will still run Pongmei for Q8, Rea's for Outcasts, tasca for sws/sws, hells for magams ect ect ect. Or maybe they won't bother cause competing with a cheater thats flooding the market with the once "rare" item u farming isn't all that appealing of a proposition.
PS. Looking forward to you saying to people "You have to pay 20a for this item nobody bid above 3a because is super rare 0.001% drop chance". That's gona be awsome to watch
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I'm all for more data, collect a lot of it myself and find this very interesting.
I'm all for ending botting completely.
Hope this clarifies my positions
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So we got to the stage where botters are so prevalent and so unconcerned about consequences they brazenly post the data from there ill gotten gains.
Sad, really sad.
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You stay away from the Q1's bro. They belong with me
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Comparing to "similar" items has very little value in predicting a price in such a thinly traded market. As stated by himself and others its basically: 1 of a kind, it's the best ever, never seen another. How can the price of something claiming those descriptions be in an relevance to another? You could say that this item that did sell is "less desired" or "less rare" so if prices scale to rarity then it should be more. But we all know that its how prices always work. There is dozens of other factors that make past price of even identical items a crap predictor of future prices. To anybody who trades in rare items this is obvious but seems to be completely forgotten when it comes to giving price checks.
Yes PC should look like that. 100%. (With 1 alteration "give adequte time" as i stated. Anything other than that is pointless speculation.
If you like make it wait 1 week after bids stop. That should prevent taking bids to soon shouldn't it? Another simple solution.
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So a price check should be this should it:
I guess 100+ or 200+. Also could be 300-400a cause a different item at a different time with different buyers happened.
.....but put for sale a find out.
This is all nonsense. Just skip it and use the last part.
@ardunain as initially stated my comments apply to everyone not just pleiki. Not just picking a fight with him. Seller should ignore any price or range conjured from peoples imagination.
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Disagree. Guessing a price is never needed. Making up high numbers to stop so called "pm lowballs" is not justification. If you want to stop them then use the phrase :
"Don't accept pm offers until after auction"
Simples.
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Its absolutely necessary to counter such ridiculous statements. Left unchallenged somebody might take them seriously. When somebody can say 100-400a as a suggested price range the opposition view that its BS is required.
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I dont think you can get offers that are fair for the rarity and awesomess of this offhand, as sad as it is, thesedays doubt u can get fair price for it
What helpful advise. Lets break this down a bit and expose this striking level of stupidity.
You are assigning an unspecified value to an item but you don't think anybody will pay it. So you expecting nobody will pay what u think its worth or the "fair price". If nobody will pay it then wtf are you are talking about. The price an item is exchanged for is something both parties agree to. If no buyer will pay that then no exchange takes place and the price was not valid. You are quite literally posting invalid ideas of a "the price" in the "price check" thread. Nobody wants to hear what ur subjective value is on their items. That is not a price check, that is utter nonsense.
Its for sure 100a++, maybe 200a+
But wait there's more. For sure its over 100a maybe over 200a is it? If either of these were correct it would make ur other answer wildly incorrect. You then go on to say 300-400a is possible. You know what else is possible any amount within the currency limit of the game 50,100,300,500,1000,2000. Stop posting imaginary numbers!
Has an item the same as this been sold in the recently? No
If it had would it be representative of the future price you will receive in a different auction with different variables? No
Alan Firehazard ignore every number, every suggestion, every range, every idea of what this item is worth suggested here. Nobody knows what the highest bid will be until it is placed unless somebody has a time machine?
Post for sale, give adequate time for auction and see what the number is when the bids stop. When you have that number decide if you want that amount of arms or the item. Its really simple.
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Some people collect 9vs heartbreakers you know
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How much are unconditionals worth now in general? Any idea what they might fetch on the market or what people would even consider trading them for?
Nobody can answer that question with a number. None have been sold for years and besides one isn't equal to another so pointless to compare past sales if there were some. Its the best example of the phrase "as much as somebody will pay and as little as somebody will sell" you will find. If you wanted to speculate and say in they in the same category as OS Cry, Swamp clubs ect then fine but as the price of such are items are equally impossible to predict its a pointless exercise imo. Also pretty likely this question will never be answered. Majority of known ones are custoed, remaining are either on banned / dead accounts and the few extras not in those categories are in the hands of people who will never sell. Would be good to see some long lost ones resurrected 15 years after they were created though
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@ardunain Purple dual reds are ALOT rarer than gold.
Q8 grape Break Hammer 14^50 - 10e
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Dual defender - 70a
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What i'm trying to say is, all of hekets do drop them, not only Beast Sworn Hekets as it was stated in previous posts.
EDIT: And just because one didn't get it from a chest, it doesn't mean they don't drop from chests as well.
Can confirm they do drop from chests.
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Impossible to PC, until you posted that image basically nobody knew one existed. Put for sale and let the bids happen. I am reminded of the 1st blue magmas that was sold going for 200a+ and that was a few years ago now. Will this reach anything like that kinda number? Sell publicly and find out.
PS. Do not take private offers on this one!
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numbers quoted here are low imo. Put for sale and there will be bids..(from me
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#1 5a
Everybody knows it is impossible to give anything to ObsidiaN for free lol. We all tried and failed multiple times
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Imagine not posting it for sale, letting the bid war of all bid wars happen and missing out on the most insane overpay ever
