Posts by PyroLobster
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It gets better:
Pink is hiding other convos.
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Q9 Tac Ornate Shield 60^Hexed 9vsDemons - 5e
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the custo crimes are real
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trolls - 5a
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Demon bronze 30e
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The big pink machine finally has a max damage Istani Scimitar to make a weapon set!
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I'm not bashing the whole community and you cant think that highly of yourself that you speak for the entire community.
You bashing "people". As you didn't name them or even imply a smaller a group than the community I took it as that.
Never claimed to speak for the community.
Well arent there motives???
Yes. You don't know what they are so don't assume its the one you want to believe based on your narrative that people are "greedy and ego centered".
I'm just really irritated by certain people here on gwl gives low PC's in order for certain ppl to buy cheap and resell
Agreed when it happens it annoying. Solution = remove price check thread and end all this nonsenses fortune telling.
Btw some people get really irritated when certain people here on gwl give really high PC's not based on a objective market value of the item but some irrelevant hypothetical like if they was the seller.
very clear to me to see the agenda when the q8 30hp -2we shields are so rare that they get a pc of 30-40a. Thats the range of a q9 version shields.
Ur opinion. I could just as easily say you are attempting to inflate the the price by calling 250a because you want to sell something similar. I don't know ur intent so I didn't, you shouldn't either because you don't.
I took that example because of my plague shield because I literally had to pay 1600/40a ish back then, to own that shield since I was in bidwar and I really wanted it and that shield is alot less valuable than this q8 30hp -2we shield.
Comparing a sale from years ago of a completely different item to the prediction of this items sale.... so useful. I've paid 40a for stuff you would consider worthless, its called subjective value.
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Its worth something. Myself and a few others appreciate high gv stuff. Put for sale and let the bid war happen.
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I knew that it would take time for anyone to PC this shield, ppl are so greedy and ego centered that they want any rare item as cheap as possible so ppl dont PC on gwl when they see new gwl users,even though they know its really valuable.
You the one bashing the whole community by assuming motives for non action lol. I'm bashing you're ridiculous statement about how the value of something can be X when u paid 3X.
Seems relevant when you proceeded to make a prediction on the price of this item.
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I know what the value of that shield was and what I was willing to pay,but I had to bidwar a guy for it and it ended up on for around 1600e.
You voluntarily exchanged 1600e for that item. You valued the item at more than the 1600e you had.
The seller voluntarily exchanged that item for 1600e. They valued 1600e more than the item they had.
You thinking it was worth 450e is nonsense, proven by your own decision to pay triple that.
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I had a bidwar a year or 2 back with a caster shield for monk prot,a plagueshield that ended up costing me 1600e which wasnt worth more than 450e.
An item was worth less than the amount you yourself were willing to pay? To whom was it worth less? not you and not the seller.. wtf are you talking about?
Perhaps not many PC'ed this item cause nobody knows what such a rare item would sell for because predicting the outcome of a sale b4 it happens is not possible?
Its rare and expensive. Don't sell to PM's. List for sale and see what the highest bid is. Then make a value judgement if you want that amount of arms or the item
PS. It has some extra special from being sweet on numbers. 16x8 = 128, +30, -2 = 156.
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Jeweled Staff - 2a
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Please don't merch
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Ignore wiki, its wrong. Copperleaf only comes in Motivation.
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Small sample of a collection that has got well out of hand. Picked out some of my fav swords, axes and shields with low gold values :heart:
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Amazing sword!
Best to put it for sale if youre looking to sell it to find current market value, then decide wether you want to keep it or sell it!
The perfect PC.
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I had one like that sat in my bag for a long time and didn't even notice it was a new max range
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Ornate Buckler - 40e
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The seller has received both sides of the argument at least
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"Well now he knows 100A would be very low (rip-off) and that it can go a lot higher than that." - Does he? Is it? If such an item goes for sale and only receives a max bid / single bid of 100a (perhaps from you) should he not sell because you believe that's a ripoff? If there is no buyer above 100a please tell me why its value is more than 100a. Buyers and sellers set prices with there subjective value of the item compared with all other items. That price discovery doesn't take place until the sale, hence you always end up back at "sell and find out".
"not completely out of the blue either" - So just mostly out of the blue? really useful stuff. Past prices are no guarantee of future ones, especially when the comparison is between core skins and non core skins and even more so in market with so few participants. Pleikki said Item A is selling for X, Item B might sell for Y.
At any given time Is there:
1. The same / less or more buyers for strength Amber as "core"?
2. Do those buyers have the funds to make a purchase in that suggested range?
3. Are those buyers motivated enough to participate in a bid war and push the price to the suggested range?
You don't know the answer to those questions (nobody does) and yet that is exactly the kind of data you would require to make a prediction of the result. and yet you dishonestly make the prediction anyway.
"could be an indicator this would go quite a bit higher" - The reason you phrased this so vague is because you know its 1 factor in a multivariate equation to which you cant quantify almost any variable. Hence you cant accurately predict the price (so don't try).
"Though we cannot know whether a bid war pushing an item very high occurs or not" - Thanks for concluding with my argument
Saying core skins can sell for 100a is valid as some vague ballpark number to prevent madlad lowballs of 50e being accepted, fine stop there. Trying to use that to infer that "250a+ is possible" is not appropriate or helpful, anything is possible.
Prices don't always scale with rarity.
Prices don't remain consistent over time even for the same item.
Prices of similar items aren't always similar.
Prices of very rare items can never be known with any accuracy.
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Its possible it could sell for 100a
Its possible it could sell for 200a
Its possible it could sell for 300a
Its possible it could sell for 400a
Its possible it could sell for 500a
Any 1 of those 5 are as correct as the other 4. See the absurdity of this? Such PC's are WORTHLESS and shouldn't be given.
You don't know what such an item might sell for to any degree of accuracy whatsoever so tell the truth which is "I don't know, sell and find out" or "Identify, sell and find out". Not helpful to the OP but what hes asking cant be known so don't pretend like you are giving valid answers.
I'll give it a rest when this nonsense about guessing prices justified with "its possible" stops and people are honest. -
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Anything can happen in the world of make believe where people pull random numbers followed by the qualifier "possible".
Only way to know the price of an item such would be to put for sale. Maybe @Pleikki has a time machine and has seen this event?
Or maybe this 250a+ is the minimum that he would accept if he was the seller? I'm sure this hypothetical subjective value of what's "possible" in a world of infinite possibilities is relevant here..
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Ornate Buckler - 15e
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Q5 Istani Scimitar 13-18 40e
