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Unholy · WTS OS factions items UPDATE 03/30 Unholy October 19, 2021 at 8:17 AM

120ea curse/water

Unholy · Close please Unholy October 19, 2021 at 7:53 AM

#8 3 entire balls of goo (unfrozen!)

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Unholy · WTS OS factions items UPDATE 03/30 Unholy October 13, 2021 at 8:37 PM

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Unholy · Q8 oni blade Unholy October 9, 2021 at 10:21 PM

During "To Tahnnakai Temple," some foes or allies (I'm assuming allies, but guess I can't know for sure), must be treated as Oni by the game. On more than one occasion I've gotten Oni Shrouds from chests here (despite no Oni existing on the map). Shrouds don't drop from shiroken chests, so I guess q8 GPBs are restricted to Tahnnakai/Sunjiang, but Oni blades will drop from both "oni" chests and "shiroken" chests.

It's like one chest on the whole map, and it doesn't always spawn in the needed location. But could it happen? Sure, I guess.

Unholy · Q8 oni blade Unholy October 9, 2021 at 11:23 AM

Tahnnakai Temple (Mission), Sunjiang District, and Shenzun Tunnels (under the right circumstances). All NM of course.

These would also be the only current source of q8 max Golden Phoenix Blades if I'm not mistaken.

Good luck!

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Unholy · Closed Pre nerf Green? Unholy October 8, 2021 at 9:26 PM

Yeah it's pre. The fans had a smaller window to drop than most other greens because they were added a couple months after the release of Factions. That said, most of the forgotten fans are a byproduct of totem axe farming, which was relatively popular. The wind riders that drop them are more plentiful and easier kills than the barbed grawls that drop frozen fans (they also seem to drop the forgottens more often than the frozens drop).

I'd place Forgottens above some other more common ones (tombs staves, kepkhets, etc), but not nearly as high as a frozen. You'll have some interest if you want to sell it. Also if you have some others you're unsure of please reach out. Thanks!

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Unholy · Greens Unholy October 6, 2021 at 11:21 PM

Almost all images have been updated to the newer format & higher quality. They should all be clickable now too.

Went through and corrected the counts for confirmed and potential greens. Also fixed some images that had the wrong item shown...

Added 10 new items to the list!

Wenslauss' Chalice -- All Tombs greens (that should have a prenerf) are now confirmed!
Kaolin Accursed Staff (2nd version) -- All 3 Kaolin Accurseds are now confirmed.
Spiritgarden's Repose (2nd version) -- All 3 Spiritgarden's are now confirmed.
Ghial's Staff (3rd version) -- All 3 Ghial's now confirmed.
Kenrii's Sorrow (3rd version) -- All 3 Kenrii's now confirmed.
Talous' Staff (2nd version)
Zarnas' Wrath -- One of the very few greens that had a specific mention about a color change on its wiki page long ago. Finally confirmed after all this time.
Ssyn's Staff
Siska's Staff (2nd version) -- Color swap on this one seems to match the color swap on Ssyn's Staff. Confirming the old screenshot we found for the stat swap.
Snapjaw's Powerstone -- All three storm artifact pre-nerfs are now confirmed! Colors here match those of The Brimstone (pre & post).

There should be just 5 left to go for Prophecies and a lot left still for Factions. The remaining confirmed items with "TBA" still are ones I've personally confirmed in-game, but are either customized or not mine. Will work on getting images for them.

Thanks, lads

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Unholy · pc prenerfs Unholy October 1, 2021 at 12:39 AM

Was gonna say, drop the 0's from Blind's pc. That's for the typical gold-colored pre-nerf. Most people, myself included, prefer this color but yeah if by regular you mean yours is brown in color then it's more rare.

Unholy · Greens Unholy September 30, 2021 at 3:32 PM

In an effort to expand upon the ever-growing knowledge base surrounding "pre-nerfs," I have put together this list with what is currently known about pre-nerf green (unique) weapons. Please see these other threads for their respective pre-nerf information: Weapons, Shield & Focus, Runes & Miscellaneous. The original thread on this topic (which showcases the initial discussion and some of the earlier findings) can be found here.

"Pre-nerf/Prenerf," usually refers to anything produced in-game before the release of Nightfall and that is also not able to be produced currently or since. There are exceptions and slight variations, of course, and these will be outlined in their respective threads.

As far as pre-nerfs go, green pre-nerfs are a relatively new discovery. Because of that, this list is still very much a work in progress and future updates and/or changes to what is believed to be true can and should be expected to happen. As with other pre-nerf threads, if you can provide proof of something not currently documented here (or proof against something that is), please feel free to contribute.

There are hundreds of different green weapons in the game. I'll start by narrowing it down:

Prophecies greens (with the exception of Deldrimor Talisman & War In Kryta greens) are all eligible to have a pre-nerf version.
Factions greens (with the exception of most Amulet of the Mists greens & most Winds Of Change greens) are eligible to have a pre-nerf version.
No Nightfall pre-nerf greens are currently known or believed to exist.
No Eye of the North pre-nerf greens are currently known or believed to exist.

Most non-green pre-nerf weapons have a single identifier: their stats.

Because green weapons always come with a pre-set "package," they have a few more things to take into consideration:

Stats
Mod Order
Color

A change in any of these is enough to be pre-nerf. Some greens may only have a change in one, while others show a change in all three.

In addition, some greens may also show different differences for the same item. Yes, you read that right.

While most greens will only have two versions (the pre-nerf and the current/post-nerf), some greens are known or believed to have three versions. This is because there were multiple updates that changed these items at different times (whether this was intentional or more of an unintended byproduct is unknown). For a green weapon to have three versions, it's currently believed that it must:

Show some kind of mod order change between the versions
AND
Show some kind of color change between the versions

Because of this, only some green staves from Factions (and Kepkhet's Refuge and Gorrel's Staff from Prophecies) are currently thought to have three versions, but other examples may exist.

A breakdown of the differences would look like this:

Current/post-nerf version: Current stats, mod order, and colors. Able to be dropped in-game still.
"Original"/pre-nerf/2nd version: These green items will have both a different color and a different mod order when compared to their current/post-nerf counterpart. These dropped from the time of their release until about a month or two before Nightfall.
Pre-nerf/3rd version: These green items will have the same color as their current counterpart, but the same mod order as the original pre-nerf. These dropped for the last month or two before the release of Nightfall.

A few confirmed examples of all 3 can be found in the list below.

The following is the list of greens currently known to have at least one pre-nerf version confirmed in-game. Please keep in mind that this list is incomplete. Additional entries will be added as they are discovered and confirmed.

CONFIRMED: 183 (45 Prophecies, 138 Factions)

This list is for potential pre-nerfs (those believed to have a pre-nerf version but have not yet been confirmed in-game).

Potential: 11 (0 Prophecies, 11 Factions)

This third chart lists all the remaining Prophecies & Factions greens which are thought to not have a pre-nerf version.

My reasoning for this, along with Oldschool Cool 's explanation for staves, is given here.

Explanation for Staff mod order changes and greens with no suspected prenerfs.

For martial weapons, wands & foci:

There are none confirmed to exist so far with a mod order change. (Arius' Sai is the strongest candidate to be an exception to this, but seems a one-off.) There is an old screenshot of the Bludgeoner hammer with a different mod order than the current one. However, this screenshot features the outdated 10/10 Sundering mod. Just before Factions, item drop tables were improved to offer higher quality mods. We also have an image from this time period of Gordac's Needle (which had a +3 energy mod and a different mod order) AND a proven Gordac's Needle pre-nerf currently. The pre-nerf has a +5 energy mod, and the same mod order as the current Needle. From this we can conclude that this particular update was retroactive in nature -- affecting all previously-created greens. This leaves only one remaining identifier: color.
When comparing the following greens to the base skin of the item, we can see no differences. For example: Thorgall's Shield uses the skin of a Tall Shield (which is dyeable, for what it's worth). Comparing Thorgall's to any given undyed Tall Shield shows no differences. There is no precedent in other confirmed pre-nerf greens of a dyed item turning into an undyed item. So, we can conclude that any green martial weapon, wand or focus without a mod order change (all of them, so far) that uses the base/undyed color of that item's skin will not have a pre-nerf version.

"But wait, what about staves?"

Some staves like Galigord's Stone Staff and Rago's Flame Staff look like they could have a pre-nerf, right? Their current mods/order match those of several pre-nerf staves found in Factions. So why can't we just flip the last two mods and assume they exist? Other SF staves like Willcrusher, Brohn's Staff and Gorrel's Staff all have mod order changes but no color changes (as they use the base skin). So we know mod order changes on SF staves are possible.
However, The Yakslapper (which has the same mod layout as Rago/Galigord's Staff), has a color change but no mod order change. We know from other pre-nerf staves that a color change will always precede a mod order change. (In the case of +30+30 staves from Factions, it's thought the two 30s simply swap, despite not really appearing different). If The Yakslapper's color change is not forcing a mod order change, then it's reasonable to think that the only other identifier left for these staves is color. And, similar to martial weapons above, these staves are using the default color for their skins, and so no pre-nerf should be possible.

That was super wordy, but I'm not sure how else to explain it. May update in the future.

The following is Oldschool Cool 's explanation for staff changes, pulled from the original discussion thread linked at the top of this post.

"Ok some update on the mod order thing :

History :

When the green staves from Proph and Fact were first dropped most of them had a 20% attribute-specific HSR (very few of them had a 10% global HSR or even no HSR at all but I will talk about those later).

The 25th October 2006 update (corresponding to the Nightfall release) changed all the existing green staves (with the exception of some low level staves from Shing-Jea) :

Example of Kepkhet's Refuge :

Original Staff :

I was only able to find an image in french but you can easily translate it to 20% HSR protection / 20% HCT protection

"Updated staff"

Current Staff

How to interpret it :

The Original Staff use the same mod order as the Current staff, but the Updated staff use a different mod order. I have been able to find 20+ picture of the Original staves (with attribute specific HSR) and the pattern is always the same. We can conclude that the update that changed the attribute-specific HSR into a global HSR also messed-up the mod order of the affected staves.

Another interesting pattern is to look at how the mod order was affected, once again there is a very clear pattern :

Original Kepkhet : +20% ench // +5e

Updated Kepkhet : +5e // +20% ench

Original Wenlauss' Faith : +30hp // +5e

Updated Wenlauss' Faith : +5e // +30hp

Original Kaolin staves : +1/20% attribute // +30hp

Updated Kaolin staves : +30hp // +1/20% attribute

Original Stonereaper : +1/20% curse // +5e

Updated Stonereaper : +5e // +1/20% cruse

Original Stoneweaver : +20%ench//+5AR

Updated Stoneweaver : +5AR//+20%ench

The Original Staff is always modded : Staff wrap // Staff head

The Updated Staff is always modded : Staff head // Staff wrap

In my opinion the code/script that updated the attribute-specific HSR into a global HSR also had the unintentional side effect to change the mod order of the staves to Staff head // Staff wrap.

How does this help us find other potential prenerfs :

Based on the current pattern we can say that :

* The staves modded Wrap//Head will most likely have a prenerf version modded Head//Wrap

* The staves already modded Head//Wrap or the staves with a duplicate mod (+30hp//+30hp or +5AR//+5AR) most likely won't have a prenerf version with a diff mod order.

Name	Campaign	Prenerf with a diff mod order
Gardock's Staff	Proph	Most likely not
Ivor's Staff	Proph	Most likely not
Bortak's Bone Staff	Proph	Most likely not
Galigord's Stone Staff	Proph	Most likely not
Vokur's Staff	Proph	Most likely not
The Darkwish	Faction	Most likely not
Woe Spreader	Faction	Most likely not
Amadis' Air Staff	Faction	Most likely not
Bazzr's Staff	Faction	Most likely not
Ssyn's Staff	Faction	Most likely not
Sulmeng's Staff	Faction - Low lvl	Most likely not
Miki's Staff	Faction - Low lvl	Most likely not
Tin Dao's Staff	Faction - Low lvl	Most likely not
Ssuns' Staff	Faction	Very likely
Milefaun's Staff	Faction	Very likely
Swiftspell's Staff	Faction	Very likely
Talous' Staff	Faction	Very likely
Arbor's Earth Staff	Faction	Very likely
Kunvie's Air Staff	Faction	Very likely

Of course nothing is ever simple with Guild Wars, so here is Part 2 : the edge cases !

As I mentioned earlier not all the original staves were using a 20% attribute specific HSR. Some green staves don't have an HSR but instead have a 20% reduce condition (similar to what could happen on prenerf gold staves) :

- Gorrel's Staff

- Brohn's Staff

- Villnar's Staff

Some other staff do have an HSR and are using an Inherent -20% condition duration (similar to what can happen on OS staves) :

- Gardock Staff

- The Yakslapper

- Ivor's staff

- Fleshweaver

- Willcrusher

Let's take the example of Gorrel Staff :

Original Staff :

26433-gorrel-jpeg

From a french website, the picture was uploaded in february 2006 (so before the NF updated).

Updated Staff

Current Staff

How to interpret it :

On side note we can notice is the exact wording on the Original staff is different. Before 2006 the "Reduce X condition by 20%" was called "Fast recovery condition X" and in the same way the "+33% X condition duration" was called "Lengthen condition X". All the text were updated and as far as I can tell this didn't impact the greens in anyway.

With the currently known prenerf we can see the following pattern :

Original Gorrel : Inscription // (Head or wrap) // (Head or wrap) // Inherent

Updated Gorrel : Inscription // Inherent // (Head or wrap) // (Head or wrap)

Original Brohn : Inscription // (Head or wrap) // (Head or wrap) // Inherent

Updated Brohn : Inscription // Inherent // (Head or wrap) // (Head or wrap)

Original Willcrusher : HSR // Head // Wrap // Inherent

Updated Willcrusher : HSR // Inherent // Head // Wrap

The following staves have prenerf version with a different color but with no stat change :

* Yakslapper : Inherent//HSR//Head//Wrap

We can make the following guess :

- The HSR update seems to have affected all the staves no matter if they actually had an HSR or not (cf. mod order change on Brohn and Gorrel)

- The Inherent and the HSR (or the inscription for the staves that don't have an HSR) are always displayed before the staff Head and Wrap.

How does this help us find other potential prenerfs :

* Gardock's staff, Ivor's Staff, Villnar's staff and Fleshweaver are unlikely to have a prenerf version with a different mod order"

In addition to the above examples from Oldschool Cool, I have also found the following, either matching or adding to what's said here.

An image of Gorrel's Staff posted to Guru one day after Sorrow's Furnace was added to the game, matching the French example above.

An English image of the original Kepkhet's before the global HSR update, matching the French example above.

Images of Talous' Staff and Orosen's Staff, also before the global HSR update.

Since posting the chart above in the original thread, Woe Spreader, Talous' Staff, Gardock's Staff and Ssyn's Staff have all been confirmed. The mod order change (or lack of) matches what was proposed in the chart.

Until proven otherwise, these do not/should not have a pre-nerf version:

Note: I have been wrong about a few items before. If you have one of the items below and you think it may be different in some way, please let me know and I'll check it out.

Profession	Weapon Type	Name
Prophecies	Prophecies	Prophecies
Warrior	Sword	Grognar's Blade
	Sword	Grognar's Sword
	Sword	Victo's Blade
	Hammer	Bludgeoner
	Hammer	The Ice Breaker
	Hammer	Malinon's Malign Hammer
	Hammer	Malinon's Skull Crusher
	Hammer	Thorgall's Stone Smasher
	Axe	Razorstone
	Axe	Tanzit's Cleaver
	Axe	Totem Axe
	Axe	Victo's Battle Axe
	Shield	Grognar's Defender
	Shield	Malinon's Shield
	Shield	Tanzit's Defender
	Shield	Thorgall's Shield
	Shield	Victo's Bulwark
Ranger	Bow	Boulderbeard's Shortbow
	Bow	Drago's Flatbow
	Bow	Drago's Vampiric Flatbow
	Bow	Elswyth's Longbow
	Bow	Elswyth's Recurve Bow
	Bow	Forgerunner
	Bow	Gargash's Recurve Bow
	Bow	Graygore's Shortbow
	Bow	Graygore's Zealous Shortbow
	Bow	Rotwing Recurve Bow
	Bow	Stinger
	Bow	Stoneherder's Flatbow
	Bow	Tarnok's Longbow
	Bow	Tarnok's Recurve Bow
	Bow	Thornbeard's Horned Bow
Monk	Wand	Gordac's Holy Rod
	Wand	Ivor's Smiting Rod
	Focus	Ivor's Icon
	Focus	Wroth's Icon
Elementalist	Staff	Galigord's Stone Staff
	Staff	Rago's Flame Staff
	Wand	Flint's Wand
	Focus	Milius' Eye
Necromancer	Staff	Morgriff's Staff
	Staff	Villnar's Staff
	Wand	Morgriff's Scepter
	Wand	Villnar's Claw
	Focus	Gordac's Hook Blood
	Focus	Villnar's Glove
Mesmer	Wand	Garbok's Cane
	Wand	Korvald's Cane
	Focus	The Rockmolder
~~~~~~~~~ Factions	~~~~~~~~~~ Factions	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Factions
Multiple	Wand	Wayward Wand - all except: -Domination/Inspiration -Illusion/Inspiration -Divine/Healing -Divine/Protection -Spawning/Restoration
	Focus	Straw Effigy (all)
Warrior	Sword	Kanaxai's Edge
	Sword	Shiro's Sword
	Hammer	Gavel of the Nephilim
	Hammer	Hanjuu's Bludgeoner (low-level)
	Axe	Dragoncrest Axe
	Axe	Kanaxai's Axe
	Axe	Cho Wei's Axe (low-level)
	Shield	Exalted Aegis (all)
	Shield	Geoffer's Bulwark
	Shield	Reefclaw's Refuge
	Shield	Sunreach's Shield
Ranger	Bow	Ironwing Flatbow
	Bow	Ironwing Longbow
	Bow	Urgoz's Longbow
	Bow	Ahvha's Longbow (low-level)
	Bow	Jin's Hornbow (low-level)
Monk	Wand	Stormray
	Focus	Miella's Focus
	Focus	Rien's Sacrifice
	Focus	Feng's Focus (low-level)
Elementalist	Wand	Whyk's Wand
	Wand	Auri's Wand (low-level)
	Focus	Chung's Focus
	Focus	The Windcatcher
Necromancer	Wand	The Deathkeeper (low-level)
	Wand	Yingko's Claw (low-level)
	Focus	Konrru's Fervor
	Focus	Plaguebinder
Mesmer	Staff	Sulmeng's Staff (low-level)
	Wand	Phi's Wisdom
	Wand	Baozo's Wand (low-level)
Assassin	Dagger	Ceremonial Daggers
	Dagger	Darkroot's Daggers
	Dagger	Lou's Karambits
	Dagger	Shiro's Blades
	Dagger	Ungues of the Oni
	Dagger	Pei's Blades (low-level)
Ritualist	Staff	Tin Dao's Staff (low-level)
	Focus	Quansong's Focus
	Focus	Tattered Fan

Greens with documented retroactive changes:

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Made a lil more effort in making the comparisons higher quality. Changed the layout a bit, too. I'll eventually go back and redo the older ones I posted to make everything more consistent.

Icons shown belong to their respective half of the comparison. If they're identical, they'll say "identical." If they're different, they won't say anything. Pre-nerf will always be on top. Post-nerf will always be on bottom.

Before we get into it I'd like to thank Capitalist for his very generous donation of Galigord's Rod, Willcrusher, Shen's Censure, and Woe Spreader.

Let's do the thing.

Monk

Hukhrah's Staff: I knew this one was out there based on an old screenshot I found, but never really expected to find it. The overabundance of staves created by Mount Qinkai vanquishes should have long since buried their more ancient counterpart.

Shen's Censure: A surprising find. Hadn't considered this one prior to its discovery, but Capitalist came in clutch. Tip of the hat to you. The colors on this one seem identical to the colors on Hukhrah's. Stats, order and icons are identical.

Incetol's Focus: Harder to farm than The Stonehart and Byzzr's Benediction, makes sense that this was the last of the pre-nerf loops to be found.* The trio is complete! Stats, order and icon are identical.

*There is Feng's Focus, but it uses the base dye color for divine symbol loops and there's no evidence to suggest its stats would change somehow, so I don't believe it will have a pre-nerf version.

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Gordac's Holy Rod: The first of Gordac's pre-nerfs to be found, but the last of the pre-nerf holy rods! As with Incetol's Focus and the loops, there is one other holy rod from Proph/Factions (Ivor's Smiting Rod), but it also uses the base color for holy rods. Until proven otherwise, I don't believe a pre-nerf Ivor Rod exists. This one is interesting in that its confirmation should remove the possibility of different mod orders on pre-nerf wands.

This image (found in the list in the OP) is of the original stats (note the +3 energy instead of the standard +5 now).

The stats nowadays are identical but the colors are different (the usual case). There's no evidence so far that a pre-nerf will have current stats but an old color, so I think it's safe to assume that all pre-nerf Gordac Rods (and any others that may have had this old order) were retroactively updated. Stats, order and icons are identical.

Milthuran's Staff: Not me just casually sneaking in another 3rd version. Unlike the above, old stats but new color is a possibility. I refer to these as 3rd versions as, well, they were the 3rd version of the items to be found. Big brain. Until now, Kepkhet's Refuge and The Stonereaper were the only confirmed 3rd versions. In theory, my Spiritgarden's Repose and Kaolin Accursed Staff are as well, but their normal pre-nerfs haven't been found yet.

That said, if there was any doubt before, all staves with a mod order and color change should have 3 versions. These are more rare than their usual pre-nerf counterpart, as the window for these to have dropped was significantly smaller. Here's the updated comparison of all 3. The 3rd version here is the middle image (with old stats but new color).

Bortak's Bone Cesta: This one follows the same color change as Kole's Gauntlet and is the 2nd (and last) pre-nerf glove skins. Vilnar's Glove uses the base dye for glove gauntlets, and shouldn't have any other changes. It's also the first of Bortak's weapons confirmed. The staff should be out there somewhere... Stats, order and icons are identical.

Woe Spreader: There's a pic of the pre-nerf stats for Siska's Staff in the OP, but this is the first of the four Elliptical Staff greens to be confirmed in game. Siska's and Ssuns' should have a mod and color change, and Ssyn's should just have a color change. Stats and order are identical. Icons are different.

Warrior

Warrior was one of the bigger winners with this update.

The Stonebreaker (Hammer): Slightly more exotic than your typical Pongmei/Dragon Moss fodder, this one boasts a pretty big color change. Stats and order are identical. Icons are different.

The Ugly Stick: This counts as a pre-nerf spiked club, right? Yeah totally. Ugly no more. It's found a loving home. This is another very subtle one, so I added a box to note the difference as well as a drop color comparison to show it more easily. Stats and order are the same. Icons are very slightly different.

Jacqui's Aegis: Objectively less ugly. Who doesn't like shiny things? Stats and order are identical. Icons are different. I believe the only remaining Factions shield that will have a color change is Arrahhsh's Aegis. If you think you might have one, get in touch!

Wing's Axe: The first confirmed pre-nerf axe. There should be one for Razorfin's Axe as well. Wing's sports a small color change on the handle (looks similar to the change on Sskai's Sword). The icon handle is noticeably whiter. Stats and order are identical.

Ele

Ele was the other big winner here and the one I'm most excited about as it's a big nostalgia trip to the birthplace of greens.

The Brimstone: Was super happy to finally get this one. The storm artifact prenerfs have some nice colors. Soulstone/Brimstone are found. Snapjaw's Powerstone should be out there somewhere, and with the same colors as the Brimstone. Have one? Message me! Stats, order and icons are identical.

Brimstone Wand: Yep, the pair is complete. Similar color swap to the Brimstone. Stoked to now have the full Brimstone set (the staff was confirmed earlier this year). Stats, order and icons are identical.

Galigord's Rod: Another vivid color swap. I'm pretty sure this pre-nerf color of this one will match the pre-nerf color of Seacrash's Influence. If you have one you think looks similar, please get in touch. Stats, order and icons are identical.

Flint's Fleshcleaver: Most of the pre-nerf colors are so nice. Why'd they have to go and do us like this? Stats, order and icons are identical.

Mesmer

Wayward Wand (Domination/Inspiration): The 4th of the 5 known pre-nerf Waywards. Just the Illusion/Inspiration is left. All modern green Wayward Wands will have matching attributes in their requirement and mod. Icons and color are identical.

I think it's weird that only these few combos would exist and not, say, Divine/Smiting, among others, as well. Who knows why Anet does what they do. If you have an Illusion/Inspiration one, please reach out!

Willcrusher: Last but not least, another bad boy from Sorrow's Furnace. The skin is sick, just wish the stats were more useful. The base skin (Willcrusher Staff) is undyeable and no color change is seen between these two versions. It does have a pretty obvious mod order swap though.

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NAME	DESCRIPTION	IMAGE
Prophecies	Prophecies	Prophecies
Ogre-Slaying Knife	Color change (weapon)
Victo's Maul	Color change (weapon)
N/A	N/A
Kepkhet's Refuge	Color change (weapon) & Mod order change (three versions exist)
Wenslauss' Faith	Mod order change
Brohn's Staff	Mod order change
Gardock's Staff	Color change (weapon)
The Yakslapper	Color change (weapon)
Ivor's Staff	Color change (weapon)
Wroth's Holy Rod	Color change (weapon) & completely different stats
Brohn's Holy Rod	Color change (weapon)
The Stonehart	Color change (weapon)
The Soulstone	Color change (weapon)
Wenslauss' Chalice	Color change (weapon)
Milius' Pillar	Mod order change
Runar's Brimstone Staff	Color change (weapon)
Flint's Fleshcleaver	Color change (weapon)
Galigord's Rod	Color change (weapon)
Brimstone Wand	Color change (weapon)
Rago's Flame Wand	Color change (weapon)
Galigord's Stone Scroll	Color change (weapon)
The Brimstone	Color change (weapon)
Flint's Artifact	Color change (weapon)
The Kindlerock	Color change (weapon)
Kole's Torment	Mod order change
Fleshweaver	Color change (weapon)
Bortak's Bone Staff	Color change (weapon)
Gordac's Needle	Color change (weapon)
The Shadestone	Color change (weapon)
Bortak's Bone Cesta	Color change (weapon)
Kole's Gauntlet	Color change (weapon)
Frozen Fan	Color change (weapon & icon)
Illyana's Staff	Mod order change
Gorrel's Staff	Color change (weapon) & Mod order change (3 versions exist)
Vokur's Staff	Color change (weapon)
Handsmasher	Color change (weapon)
Willcrusher	Mod order change
Gorrel's Cane	Color change (weapon)
Vokur's Cane	Color change (weapon)
Forgotten Fan	Color change (weapon & icon)
Illyana's Mirror	Color change (weapon)
Korvald's Chakram	Color change (weapon)
Garbok's Chalice	Color change (weapon)
Vokur's Chakram	Color change (weapon)
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Faith	Different stats (the prenerf is missing a mod)
Kai's Sword	Color change (weapon & icon)
Sskai's Sword	Color change (weapon & icon)
Rajazan's Fervor	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kaolin Blade	Color change (weapon & icon)
Quivering Blade	Color change (weapon & icon)
Vera	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Stonebreaker	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Ugly Stick	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kanaxai's Mallet	Color change (weapon & icon)
Sentasi's Jade Hammer	Color change (weapon & icon)
Wing's Axe	Color change (weapon & icon)
Ironclaw	Color change (weapon)
Razorfin's Axe	Color change (weapon & icon)
Strongroot's Shelter	Color change (weapon & icon)
Tarnen's Shield	Color change (weapon)
Merki's Gaze	Color change (weapon & icon)
Baubao's Shell	Color change (weapon & icon)
Jacqui's Aegis	Color change (weapon & icon)
Arrahhsh's Aegis	Color change (weapon)
Razortongue's Recurve Bow	Color change (weapon)
Swiftscale's Shortbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Nundak's Recurve Bow	Color change (weapon)
Ryver's Shortbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Chkkr's Flatbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Nandet's Recurve Bow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Urgoz's Shortbow	Color change (weapon)
Urgoz's Flatbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Razorjaw's Hornbow	Color change (weapon)
Kaolin Longbow	Color change (weapon)
Lorelle's Longbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Chehbaba's Longbow	Color change (weapon)
Brrne's Recurve Bow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Meynsang's Longbow	Color change (weapon)
Inallay's Hornbow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Royen's Hornbow	Color change (weapon)
Ziinjuu's Sanctuary	Completely different stats
Kaolin Protection Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Jayne's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Stoneweaver	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (3 versions exist)
Scourgewind's Branch	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
The Scar Eater	Color change (weapon)
Hukhrah's Staff	Color change (weapon) & mod order change
Ssuns' Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Ziinfaun's Belief	Color change (weapon)
Mungri's Flame	Color change (weapon & icon)
Wayward Wand (Divine/Prot)	Different stats (mixed attributes)
Wayward Wand (Divine/Heal)	Different stats (mixed attributes)
Byzzr's Benediction	Color change (weapon)
Incetol's Focus	Color change (weapon)
Ky's Chalice	Color change (weapon)
Shen's Censure	Color change (weapon)
Kaolin Water Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Koosun's Fire Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Amadis' Air Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kunvie's Air Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Arbor's Earth Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Seacrash's Influence	Color change (weapon)
Shatterstone	Color change (weapon & icon)
Zarnas' Wrath	Color change (weapon & icon)
Bahnba's Scepter	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Stonebreaker (wand)	Color change (weapon & icon)
Lian's Lantern	Color change (weapon)
Snapjaw's Powerstone	Color change (weapon)
Tarlok's Flagon	Color change (weapon & icon)
Bizzr's Fury	Color change (weapon)
Milthuran's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Kyril's Fervor	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Kaswa's Gluttony	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Kaolin Accursed Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
The Stonereaper	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Ghial's Staff	Color change (weapon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
The Darkwish	Color change (weapon)
Woe Spreader	Color change (weapon & icon)
Bazzr's Wail	Color change (weapon & icon)
Rot's Putrescence	Color change (weapon)
Sourbeak's Taint	Color change (weapon)
Kkraz's Indulgence	Color change (weapon & icon)
Chan's Greed	Color change (weapon & icon)
Foulfist's Focus	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kaolin Domination Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Kenrii's Sorrow	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Siska's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change
Talous' Staff	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (3 versions exist)
Milefaun's Staff	Mod order change
Swiftspell's Staff	Mod order change
Wingstorm	Color change (weapon)
Wayward Wand (Dom/Insp)	Different stats (mixed attributes)
Wayward Wand (Illu/Insp)	Different stats (mixed attributes)
The Dream Haunter	Color change (weapon & icon)
Mina's Gaze	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Time Eater	Color change (weapon)
Mohby's Artifact	Color change (weapon)
The Purifier	Color change (weapon)
Deeproot's Sorrow	Color change (weapon & icon)
Hanaku's Focus	Color change (weapon)
Tahkayun's Pincers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Chkkr's Pincers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Shreader's Talons	Color change (weapon & icon)
Razorfang's Claws	Color change (weapon & icon)
Daggers of Xuekao	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kenshi's Butterfly Daggers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Kaolin Daggers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Everthorn's Chakrams	Color change (weapon & icon)
Falaharn's Split Chakrams	Color change (weapon & icon)
Arius' Sai	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (the only known non-staff with a mod order change)
Shrouded Oni Daggers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Ssaresh's Kris Daggers	Color change (weapon & icon)
Urkal's Kamas	Color change (weapon & icon)
Onata's Shards	Color change (weapon & icon)
Ritual Lord's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Spiritgarden's Repose	Color change (weapon & icon) & mod order change (three versions exist)
Orosen's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Ssyn's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Bazzr's Staff	Color change (weapon & icon)
Miki's Staff	Different stats (Unique change unlike any other staff)
Mossbeard's Wand	Color change (weapon & icon)
Wayward Wand (Spawn/Resto)	Different stats (mixed attributes)
Kaolin Wand	Color change (weapon & icon)
Vengeance Seeker	Color change (weapon & icon)
Spiritspeaker	Color change (weapon & icon)
Brightclaw	Color change (weapon & icon)
Soulwhisper's Guardian	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Pain Eater	Color change (weapon & icon)
Sseer's Wish	Color change (weapon & icon)
The Skill Eater	Color change (weapon & icon)
Spiriteater	Color change (weapon & icon)
Cho's Vice	Color change (weapon & icon)

Name	Description	Image
Prophecies	Prophecies	Prophecies
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Factions	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Factions	~~~ Factions
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
Ssuns' Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Jayne's Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Scourgewind's Branch (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Hukhrah's Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Sanhan's Staff	Completely different stats? (Similar to Ziinjuu's Sanctuary)	Photoshopped image of what the prenerf is thought to look like.
Arbor's Earth Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Kunvie's Air Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Kaswa's Gluttony (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Kyril's Fervor (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Kaolin Domination Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
Siska's Staff (3rd)	3rd version thought to exist. 2nd version already confirmed.	(Stats will match the already-confirmed prenerf, but color will match the post-nerf.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)
(None thought to remain. See next list below.)

Name	Information	Image
The Rockmolder	Originally featured a universal 20% recharge mod. This was the only focus in the game to offer such a benefit. All existing Rockmolders were changed.
Shiro's Blades	Originally required 15 Dagger Mastery. All were changed to 13.	Only managed to find a French screenshot. If anyone knows of an English one, please tell me.
Shiro's Sword	Originally required 15 Swordsmanship. All were changed to 13.
Stygian Recurve Bow	Originally functioned as a Longbow. All were changed to function as a Recurve Bow.	Image needed
Fervorborn Staff	Was originally misspelled as "Ferverborn Staff." All were corrected to Fervorborn Staff.
Iceblood's Warstaff	Originally featured a single HCT Water 40% mod. All were corrected to have two 20% HCT Water mods instead.
Phoenix's Retribution	Originally missed what is the equivalent of its inscription. All were corrected to include it.
Hassin's Shell	Originally had 10 armor with no requirement. All were updated to give 8 armor and +20 health instead.	Image needed
Imperial Dragon Spear	Originally came with four mods. All were updated to remove the extra +30hp.	Image needed
War in Kryta greens	All WiK greens were able to be modded at release. This was corrected and all were returned to their proper stats.
Various icons	A few images of greens with colored icons have been found. These colored icons aren't possible today (greens or not). We think these were retroactively changed. A few examples can be seen here: - Ogre-Slaying Knife - Flint's Artifact - An old bank tab showing what seems to be: -- Galigord's Rod (prenerf) -- Gorrel's Cane (prenerf)