Posts by Unholy

Several updates to the thread today.

• Added confirmation of The Kindlerock thanks to a very generous donation from Kalvorn (along with a prenerf Rago's Wand!)
• Added confirmation of Chkkr's Flatbow and an updated image of Ironclaw.
• Added Foulfist's Focus to the potentials list (it was somehow missing until now...)
• Corrected the counts on total confirmed and potential greens.
• Added colored icons to the retroactive changes list (some we have found that don't have colored icons today)

For the potentials list I've thrown together several comparison images using screenshots found on some of the old fan sites linked by Oldschool Cool (thanks!) Most aren't very good quality, but I added the ones I thought showed a noticeable difference (might need to click on the bow images...). Hopefully this will help some of them show up. None of these are confirmed yet, but there's a better idea of what to look for now.

- Ivor's Staff

- Brrne's Recurve Bow

- Lorelle's Longbow

- Urgoz's Flatbow

- Urkal's Kamas

- Arius' Sai

- Quivering Blade

- Foulfist's Focus

- Cho's Vice

- Seacrash's Influence

- Arbor's Earth Staff

- Hanaku's Focus

Thanks

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Ziinfaun's Belief

Ironclaw

Chkkr's Flatbow

100e/ea

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Happy to confirm that a prenerf "Faith" does exist. We thought so, but until now hadn't seen proof in-game. For whatever reason, the update that corrected the Imperial Dragon Spear and Phoenix's Retribution didn't correct these. Interesting to note that this is the only known prenerf added to the game after NF.

Polished the thread a bit more.

• Added some suspected prenerf images of a few unconfirmed greens.
• Also transferred over the list for known retroactively changed greens from the original discussion thread
• Transferred Oldschool Cool's explanation and examples for staff mod order changes to this thread. I combined that with my explanation, and added a few additional examples in the spoiler above the "no prenerf" list.

If anyone has an image for any of the retroactive greens before they were changed, or knows of other examples, please share! Will add a few extra notes for some of these soon (like patch note dates, etc).

See below for Faith proof. The stat comparison has been added to the main list. No color change on this one, just an addition of the missing mod.

Thanks!

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Yknow...when you had first posted it I didn't even realize it was nonmax. feelsbad

3e

1e on the silly paper thing >:(

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Quote from Agent Chevy

If anyone has an EOTN or NF only skin (non-staff) that doesn't have an insc, I would love to see it.

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I would believe it being a current drop with actual proof (screenshots with post nerf gear, etc).

When you say current/postnerf, do you mean post-deathbane bug fix? I've mentioned it somewhere on Legacy before, but shortly after (within the first week or so) of the weapon contest skins being added to the game, I managed to pull a req9 emerald blade from kathandrax. To my surprise, it had no inscription...and it also had a deathbane mod.

These update notes from 2008 refer to this old bug.

Nowadays, of course, I regret having sold it back then (for 100k+100e, a mere fraction of what a correct one would've been at the time), but it's out there somewhere. I may have a screenshot of it on an old flash drive, but that will take some digging. Will get back to you on that.

But I was under the impression that this sort of bug could still happen? Maybe not exclusively with/because of a deathbane mod, but just in general? Is that not the case?

Edit: I assume this is what happened to the Obsidian/Runic Pleikki mentioned as well.

Ambers are gold only.

OS Diamond/Iridescent are also gold only as far as I'm aware.

Like Kugiini said, insc Diamond/Iridescents can be purple. I had a couple listed for sale earlier this year.

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Oh yeah would you look at that. Hadn't noticed. Whoops...

55e/ea r21/27

Thanks for the heads up

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10a lantern

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5e w5

25e r21

25e r27

750e lantern

F4 75e

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500e lantern

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The one on pleikki's thread is divine/prot, just as this one is. His r/b of 8a is completely outlandish.

Prenerf waywards, while not as common as say, prenerf tombs staves or kepkhet's refuge, are still not *that* rare. They are a liked skin with decent mods, were easy to acquire, and were available for quite some time before their change. In terms of wayward rarity I would place the monk waywards as the most common, followed by rit and then mesmer.

I'd be shocked to see a monk one fetch more than 3a (with arms as high as they currently are), but even that is pushing it, imo.

As for the dmg difference, yeah the current options are divine/divine with fire dmg, or prot/prot with holy dmg. The prenerf is just a mix of the two.