Posts by Unholy

The one on pleikki's thread is divine/prot, just as this one is. His r/b of 8a is completely outlandish.

Prenerf waywards, while not as common as say, prenerf tombs staves or kepkhet's refuge, are still not *that* rare. They are a liked skin with decent mods, were easy to acquire, and were available for quite some time before their change. In terms of wayward rarity I would place the monk waywards as the most common, followed by rit and then mesmer.

I'd be shocked to see a monk one fetch more than 3a (with arms as high as they currently are), but even that is pushing it, imo.

As for the dmg difference, yeah the current options are divine/divine with fire dmg, or prot/prot with holy dmg. The prenerf is just a mix of the two.

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No brand new confirmations with this update, but I've added images for the following 9 greens previously marked TBA.

1. Kaolin Protection Staff (2nd version) (monk staff, factions)- added image of color and mod changes now that I have one.
2. Rago's Flame Wand (ele wand, prophecies) - very noticeable color difference. icon/stats are identical
3. Kanaxai's Mallet (hammer, factions) - slight color difference in weapon and icon (most noticeable in the "silver" top of the hammer in the icon vs the darker "black" top in the icon of the postnerf. stats are the same.
4. Swiftscale's Shortbow (factions) - very slight color difference in the green wraps. difference more noticeable in the prenerf icon. stats identical
5. Nundak's Recurve Bow (factions) - slight difference in the red handle of the bow. stats/icon identical
6. Ryver's Shortbow (factions) - very slight color difference in the entire bow, more noticeable in the prenerf icon (lighter/whiter in color).
7. The Purifier (mez focus, factions) - color change in the weapon itself. stats/icons identical
8. Everthorn's Chakrams (factions) - unfortunately no image of the weapon for now, but very noticeable difference in the icons.
9. Vengeance Seeker (rit wand, factions) - color change in weapon/icon. prenerf is a brighter blue in both. stats identical.

Items 2-9 are owned by and/or customized to their respective owners. Thanks to them for either providing screenshots (swiftscale/nundak) or loaning them to me temporarily (rago's flame wand). The rest are the best I can do with quick screenshots I've taken in the past, but hopefully that will help some extras of them turn up.

Keep a lookout. Thanks

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The last of the original prenerf set finally came my way! Thanks to our resident artist for bringing it to life.

(Three 3rd versions to go and all 3 sets will be complete. If you think you have one please get in touch.)

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Quote from Red Fireball

...but where?

Canthan chest near Shiroken in Sunjiang District. 1 of 4 places they (should) still drop.

100e/ea - vera, rago wand

50e/ea - stonehart, sourbeak, lian, bortak cesta

Would like to confirm vera and rago's wand in game if you don't mind. Vera looks like it, but can be hard to tell without a side-by-side. Lighting in that spot/screenshot isn't the best - hard to say what color rago's actually is.

edit: rago wand is postnerf (sad reacts)

So this happened today. Funny as there was discussion recently of whether or not these still drop. This is the closest I've personally gotten to one. If there was any remaining doubt before, it can definitely still happen.

Haven't ID'd it yet.

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Added 3 new confirmations to the list:

• Fleshweaver (necro staff, prophecies): prenerf color matches the proposed (in the original research thread) prenerf color found in an old screenshot. Stats, order and icons are all identical.
• Gardock's Staff (monk staff, prophecies): prenerf color matches the proposed (in the original research thread) prenerf color found in an old screenshot. Stats, order and icons are all identical.

(Pretty sure we're down to just 3 remaining prophecies prenerfs!)

• Ironclaw (axe, factions): This one was a big surprise. I had originally listed it as "this done not have a prenerf until proven otherwise." Only the little stylized red lines on the blade change color. The prenerf Ironclaw matches the colors on any basic gothic axe, but the postnerf Ironclaw has slightly darker lines. I thiiink this is the first instance of an undyeable martial having this sort of change? It seems to match The Yakslapper's sort of one-off weirdness. (The base skin for The Yakslapper, "Sacred Staff", I think matches that of the prenerf version, and the postnerf seems to have the differing color.)
  
  • Will try to get a better picture at some point, or just replicate with a regular gothic. The prenerf I confirmed was customized (sad react). The icons for the two are identical as far as I can tell.
  • I'm still pretty confident that most, if not all, remaining items listed as "not having a prenerf" won't actually have a prenerf. What I can prob do is run through them again and check postnerf versions vs. base skins. If others *don't* match (like Ironclaw/Gothic Axe), then there may be a chance.

I still need to get around to some general thread cleanup and uploading some kind of image for the other confirmed TBAs from earlier. Hopefully that will help with finding some uncustomized versions.

M u c h T h a n k & E n j o y

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175e thunder

100e thunder

50e thunder

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Bump. There is work to be done.

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120ea curse/water

#8 3 entire balls of goo (unfrozen!)

lantern 5e

curses/water plat 100e/ea

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During "To Tahnnakai Temple," some foes or allies (I'm assuming allies, but guess I can't know for sure), must be treated as Oni by the game. On more than one occasion I've gotten Oni Shrouds from chests here (despite no Oni existing on the map). Shrouds don't drop from shiroken chests, so I guess q8 GPBs are restricted to Tahnnakai/Sunjiang, but Oni blades will drop from both "oni" chests and "shiroken" chests.

It's like one chest on the whole map, and it doesn't always spawn in the needed location. But could it happen? Sure, I guess.

Tahnnakai Temple (Mission), Sunjiang District, and Shenzun Tunnels (under the right circumstances). All NM of course.

These would also be the only current source of q8 max Golden Phoenix Blades if I'm not mistaken.

Good luck!

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