Posts by Oldschool Cool
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Thanks for your contribution Cosyfiep, that's one more to add to the confirmed list !
I checked mine and it turns out that the 2 random one I bought from Kama were using the prenerf color. I even farmed one myself right now to confirm that the current color is indeed different.
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Another kephket. Same but diffrent. It is Pre-nerf mod order on Post-nerf Color ?!
Some one else has a explanation for that or a similar one ?
Oldschool Cool and me have no idea on it where/when and how it comes from
Not gonna lie you threw me a curved ball with this one.
We know that the 25th october 2006 update (wiki link) introduced the new dye system and updated the green staves to give them a global 20% HSR instead of an attribute specific HSR.
My theory was very simple :
- All the greens dropped before the update were using the old dye system, and all the green dropped after the update are using the new dye system. In some case the new green have a slightly darker color than the old green. (Cf Zarnas' Wrath, Tahkayun/Chkkr, Handsmasher, Stonereaper etc)
- When the existing green staves got updated to give them a global 20% HSR, the update somehow changed the mod order on the 2 bottom rows. Most of the staves were affected except those with duplicated mods (+5AR +5AR and +30 HP + 30 HP).
In some case the HSR was updated on the new drops but not on the existing staves (Cf Ziinjuu's Sanctuary and mosty likely Sanhan's Staff).
Edit : Some new addition from Unholy, turns out my theory was wrong.Now I don't know what to make of your Kephket... all the prenerf staves should have both a prenerf color and a prenerf mod order.There is only one possible explanation : the color change happened prior to the HSR change and your Kephket dropped in the interval in between the two :* Maybe the color of the green items was changed before the official introduction of the new dye system. For example during the nightfall world preview event in september 2006 ?).* Maybe the october 2006 update only affected the newly dropped staves and the HSR was changed on the existing staves during a later (and undocumented) update. -
The last time this was discussed the consensus seems to be that blue darkwirng defender don't drop anymore :
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I will also take this one : Magmas ARM q12 Dual VAMP 14e
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I took a small break but now i'm back.
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San I'm interested if you still have it, I will PM you in game
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Hey,
For the shields I would just merch all of them, they are very unperfect and with unwanted stats and common skins.
For the staves/wands I would merch everything except :
- Evil Eye = maybe 5/10e (wait for more opinion)
- Simiting rod = maybe a few ecto (hard sell)
- Divine Symbol = 5-15e
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I will try a PC (better late than never I guess).
I would merch all except :
- renforced buckler : a few ecto (1-5e), take what ever offer you can get
- embossed Q9 -2 wE -20% blind. I would say 10-25e range. Maybe @ardunain would be interested or can give you a more precise PC.
- Q8 chakram +42 wE HCT 9%. Q8 OS focus with dual mod are quite rare. Even if the mods are bad this one should be sellable for a few ecto (if you get no offer PM I will gladly save it from the merch).
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pokrhg The carapace shield and storm artifact are from some random NPC collectors, they have no market value.
I would merch everyhing except :
- OS7/OS8 = a few ecto, hard sale
- OS 29 = a few ecto, hard sale
- OS 26 = it's indeed prenerf with a nice skin and decent stats. Put it for sale on Legacy, you should get some decent offers.
- INS 14 = might be valuable, wait for more opinion on this one Snoop Snail
- INS 16 = can be sold in kama for 2/4e
Quoteps: last question, i got some OS Q8 gold max 15^50 swords, axes and hammers on my main, are they really hot or is it depending on the skin?
Yep they are valuable (if they aren't custo ofc).
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I agree with Adrunain, everything is merch except :
- eternal flame wand = maybe a few ecto but it's gonna be a hard sell.
- healing ankh = i'm interested and I can save it for some ecto. Feel free to PM me
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There are 9 wand skin that can drop in multi-prof (Mr Clean didn't list the Platinium, Jellyfish and Koi), but yeah I have never seen a multi-prof focus.
I also have this screenshot in my weird item folder, it must have been yours Pleikki.
If the prenerf focus could drop with a +1/20% from another profession I guess that they could also drop with a 20% HSR/HCT from another prof ?
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How about Arbostone near Lift Operator Shulz ?
Edit : Nvm you already listed this one
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I'm offering the RB on :
Aegis 9 Tactics +10 Dragons -2wE = 40e (RB)
Aegis 11 Tactics -2wE +10 Lightning = 20e (RB)
All my other offers still stand
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Aegis 9 Tactics +45wS -Disease = 5e
Aegis 10 Tactics +60wH -3wH = 10e
Aegis 10 Tactics Fire +1 (20) -2wE = 5e
Shield of the Wing 13 Tactics +30 -Blind = 25e
Shield of the Wing 9 Tactics -2wS Smite +1 (20) = 5e
Shield of the Wing 12 Tactics -2wE Earth +1 (20) = 5e
Shield of the Wing 12 Tactics +10 Demon +42wE = 10e
Shield of the Wing 13 Tactics -2wE +10 Plants = 5e
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You can also use the long sword from Hylas for extra armor vs dwarves, if you didn't reach the bonus armor cap yet.
A few months ago I have tested this sword and it seems the armor bonus doesn't work (either bugged or nerfed a while ago).
On a side note I also tested the Rinblade sword for the +5 armor vs charr (Rinblade) and it is also bugged.
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Great to see the thread is almost 100% completed.
If you look at the offhand fortitude and +45hp while ench/stance, there is an overlap on the upperbound of the blue and the lowerbound of the purple (respectively +20hp for fortitude and +30hp for wS and wE) and no overlap on the upperbound purple and lowerbound gold)
Based on that it would make sense that the while hexed goes : blue 30-45, purple 45-55 and gold 56-60.
Nice, keep the data coming! I'll try to update the main tables as often as possible.
TongTong that's a really interesting one, I didn't expect gold prenerf value to be below current blue minimum (maybe I am wrong about current blue?) But damn, that value is absolutely retarded, why would anyone keep such a shield when there is +30hp unconditional available
I think that +30hp is the current minimum for blue while hexed.
As far as I know the max while hexed on gold used to be +45hp and it was changed sometimes around 2005/2006 (i'm sure Pleikki will correct me if i'm wrong).
So if +45hp was the max for prenerf gold while hexed, I would guess the lower for prenerf gold was +15hp.
A few comment on the oldschool section of the spreadsheet :
* I would separate the +30hp (hale for staves) and the +30 hp (inherent for focus/shield). The ranges are the same but I think it would clear some confusion.
* I would add a new row for the +10 armor vs damge type/creature (is it currently bundled up with the +10% furious ??)
* Maybe add the % for the -5 physical damage. 19-20% for gold, 17(?)-18% for purple etc..
* Maybe add the % for the +1/20% attribute
On the prenerf section :
* Maybe add the very old -3 physical damage (10% chance)
* Same as the oldschool section, maybe add the % for the 1/20% attribute
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Shield of the Wing 13 Tactics +30 -Blind = 25e
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Platinum Wand 11 Illusion HSR Death (20%) 20% HCT Communing = 10e
Air Wand 11 Air HCT Water (20%) HSR Earth (20%) = 10e
Flame Artifact 13 Fire HSR Earth (20%) HCT Air (20%) = 10e
Aegis 9 Tactics +10 Dragons -2wE = 10e
Aegis 9 Tactics +45wS -Disease = 5e
Aegis 10 Tactics +60wH -3wH = 10e
Aegis 10 Tactics Fire +1 (20) -2wE = 5e
Aegis 11 Tactics -2wE +10 Lightning = 10e
Shield of the Wing 9 Tactics -2wS Smite +1 (20) = 5e
Shield of the Wing 12 Tactics -2wE Earth +1 (20) = 5e
Shield of the Wing 12 Tactics +10 Demon +42wE = 10e
Shield of the Wing 13 Tactics -2wE +10 Plants = 5e
Shield of the Wing 13 Tactics +30 -Blind = 15e
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purple bone staff = 10e
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I will take that one :
-Aegis q11 38we -2we = 8e
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Seems the shield is already for sale on legacy :
WTS Q7 pre nerf shield (r/b met b/o added) + OS shields (magma , pre nerf, canthan)
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Jormungand's Thunder = 60e
Blind Was My Fury Come on don't be lazy and farm it your self, i'm sure it's quite easy !
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Thanks for the kind words Max, it means a lot especially coming from an established collector like you.
15 december update :
- Added a few low-end SotW/Aegis that I had missed before
- Greatly improved the presentation of the triple prof wands and prenerf runes
My other collections are still too new and too small to be included in there, so I won't do any other update for a while.
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a = arms =armbrace of truth
Currently 1a is worth around 38/40e.
Arms can be used as a token to buy tormented weapon, but they are also used in high-end trading for items >1750e
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I can confirm Cash price-check, those are mods are unwanted. Best you can have is a few ecto from a Q9 collector.