Posts by arag

    Hello everyone,

    I would like to start using voice commands to play the game on dual accounts.

    The way I see my base setup would be like this :

    1. On one computer I would play my first account in a regular fashion
    2. On another computer, placed to the side, I would give voice commands to play, enabling me to almost not have to use mouse/keyboard when I'm in an explorable area.


    I could not find any official statement regarding voice commands specifically.

    Regarding Arena Net policy against macros, what I could find was this (this is a GW2 statement, but I'm guessing it is valid for GW1) :

    https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013762153-Policy-Macros-and-Macro-Use

    Quote
    • Macro use cannot interfere with the gameplay of other players.
    • You cannot program a macro to perform actions on more than one account at a time.
    • You cannot use macros to automate skill use while away from your computer.
    • You cannot use macros to create skill chains in any competitive environment, including PvP, WvW, open world activities, races, etc.
    • You cannot use macros to participate in activities or events, such as Bell Choir.
    • You cannot use macros for the sole purpose of farming items, currencies, karma, or other benefits in the game, particularly while away from the keyboard (AFK).
    • You cannot use macros to fully automate a character (“bot”) in the game. Each macro should represent a single action that requires user input before repeating the action.

    As long as I am using 1 voice command = 1 key press, the above described setup seems to not violate any of the aforementioned restrictions.

    Including the first rule "perform actions on more than one account at a time" for which they give the following example :

    Quote

    You may NOT program your keyboard to perform functions on more than one account at a time. For example, if you press [W] on your keyboard to move forward, a single character on a single account should move forward. The keystroke or mouse click should not perform functions on more than one account.

    e.g. One command cannot be sent to multiple accounts. However, I would do 2 commands : one regular key press for the first account, and one voice command for the second account.


    While not breaking the macro's policy as is, wouldn't this be considered edgy or even unfair by ANet and potentially flag my accounts ?

    Especially that each voice command is going to have exactly the same key press duration (say, for instance, 100ms each time). Could this be detected and be bannable ?

    Would like to have opinions (or informations if anybody has any) on this topic.

    Thanks

    I think that would made sense.

    Come to think of it, I did change settings a few days ago in GWLauncher so that I could launch my main account with or without toolbox and with or without gMod.

    I just tried to launch the game with each option, including the regular GW.exe shortcut but was not able reproduce it.

    So I am guessing fiddling with these settings in Launcher is maybe what caused the issue somehow.

    Thanks for the info

    Alright thank you both for the replies

    It seems everything went back to normal when I reconnected later yesterday. I've never used a gamepad on my pc and haven't tried the game yet on mobile, so it's not that. I also play only on one PC, at least for now.

    During the day my game crashed once, I restarted the computer and the key bindings changed again the same way. Closed the game, rebooted once more, and the keys were to normal.

    I contacted the support and they confirmed me there was no suspicious connection on my account. I didn't notice anything else out of the ordinary.

    Seems like it's really just a glitch.

    @Mods : Can close if you see fit

    Thank you

    Hello everyone,

    I connected this morning to find that some specific key bindings were changed on my main account. Everything was normal on my secondary account.


    Key bindings that were changed :

    _I should have the comma "," for map travel. It was changed to "M".

    _I use european standard ZQSD for movement. The key to move forward was changed to W, which seems to indicate some kind of QWERTY change. However the key to move left is still "Q" and the key to move right has been changed to "E", which is inconsistent with a QWERTY change. E is in the same place both in QWERTY and AZERTY (ZQSD vs WASD).

    I checked and my windows keyboard is correctly set up as AZERTY european and when I connect to my second account everything is fine.

    I don't see any "automated" change doing that, even with Toolbox/Gw Launcher. Is there such a thing that I might have inadvertently activated ?

    I was connected yesterday evening, late, and everything was fine. Also was connected the day before that, so it's not the update of the 13th.


    Has anyone else seen their keybindings change in such a way, recently or not ?

    Does anyone know if I can contact Anet support to ask them where my account was lastly accessed from ?


    Thanks a lot to anyone that might respond

    Hello,

    I would like a PC on the following mini's pls, all ded :

    WiK : Peacekeeper, Dorian, Isaiah

    Collector : Kuunavang, Varesh

    Special : Grawl, Destroyer, Grey giant, Ceratadon

    PvP Boxes : Ghostly Priest, Guild Lord, High Priest Zhang, Rift Warden

    Other : Dhuum, Gwen doll, Yakkington, brown rabbit, Smite crawler, Reiko, Xun Rao, Mallyx

    Anniversary : Naga, Zhed, Vizu


    Alright Thanks, please close thread

    Love this run. Thank you for sharing. What type of damage reduction are you guys using on your shield?

    I'm using -2 while enchanted, pretty sure that's what everybody is running with. I don't think there is a better option, it doesn't really matter anyway.

    I never been a huge fan of starting from Tanglewood Copse, or even Maatu Keep for the reason than (at my eyes) kurzick chests are more valuable than luxon's one (luxons sucksons bouuuuuh) even if indeed you can do this "portal trick" (I call it rezone coz you have to re-enter the zone and avoid any confusion with any glitches) in these 2 cities.

    Yes indeed, more foes there is, more chance you have to get a chest.

    I didn't know number of foes was the thing that had an influence on a chest spawning or not. Good to know. Also yeah I forgot about chest drops being different on the same map, that definitely makes a difference.

    I haven't done much run in HM and it's definitely slower. It's also true that my sample is probably not big enough, but I remember regularly keeping track of my average when I was doing my title and my recent runs are very close to what I used to have. I opened something like 4000+ chests at eternal grove. I did not exactly keep track of my result, I was just checking the average after every session and it was often around 1,16 in NM without resign management. Sometimes more and rarely less. NM ideed, though.

    As for what I call "resign optimization" I mean the second option. For instance if you know that there can only be a max of 5 chests that will spawn on the route you follow, and you already had 3 of them by doing only half the route, then it seems rational to decide to resign because you may have only 1 or 2 chests and that it will take you the other half of the map or more to get them. Meaning that resigning here will help you build a better average. Theoretically at least because you need to take into account the loading time etc... That's what I do on the very first run of this vid :

    I stop at the very first am fah sin boss, that's like halfway through of the Pongmei run. At this point I got 3 chests, and I can only have 2 more with a possibility of getting only one. This is a clear example of what I would call "resign optimization". Sometimes however the decision is not that straightforward. It feels like some chests spawns are more common than others, sometimes you're more than halfway through etc... all that can change your decision of resigning or not.

    As for the "portal trick" (the first option, I don't know if this trick has an official name either and I'm pretty sure portal trick usually refers to the shadow step glitch) it can still be done from tanglewood copse instead of boreas. It is currently faster to start from tanglewood for the faster rezone, according to my tests at least. Then again, that's only my sample. I don't know if it is as fast as what it used to be from boreas seabed.

    nice analysis, great run - I'll definitely give it a try :) shadow of haste seems like a good skill for this run to get the chest and rapidly return to the route and also to cut short the corner top left

    Tell me how your runs go with that skill. It seems annoying to use but there may be some application for it.

    Hey, thank you all for the feedback, I am pleased to see it is of use to any.

    In the first run, I got these. The irony is that I was just telling someone recently that awhile back I sold a Q9 Dragon Kamas 15^Stance out of my personal collection for an offer I couldn't refuse but hadn't come across another to replace it...

    Dragon-Kamas.jpg

    Then on my 5th Run, I got this, for those that immediately want to know what mods it had, we will just say that it was prettier as an unid....

    GOTH.jpg

    I never realized dragon kamas had much value ? I'm pretty sure I merched some 15^50 15^stance and 15^ench I dropped there. I could be misremembering, because I finished my title months ago and stopped chest running shortly after. As for GoTHs, i did drop quite a few of them but iirc none had any decent stats.

    Cons : use of alcohol, a LOT of armor (16 in 50), can easily be stuck on the first bridge :p

    I kinda recommend death's charge if you don't wanna get blocked on the first bridge, it's also sometimes useful further up on the run. But since you guys are doing it HM it may not make the cut vs Heart of shadow. I must admit I never really paid attention to how many armor I usually drop instead of weapons. I am guessing that's something some ppl may want to take into account for their go-to chest run locations.

    Some maps / parts of map can be faster with an average of 2-4 chests in /age 2minutes, some does count for the chests titles, some don't but q8's possible

    edit : also got a GotH on my fifth run, coincidence ? :p but as uglier as Chevy's one (q11 tact +58^hex :p) !

    Eternal Grove do have that 2-4 chests in less than 3 minutes too, which is why I did multiple runs of 30-40 min each and try to see what these two maps yields on average. I don't know if there are any other chest run spots that can come close to Pongmei/Eternal Grove's average. Also, because of map layout it seemed like Eternal Grove had more potential for /resign optimization than Pongmei, but decision of when to resign is not always that easy to take. Do you guys do any sort of resign optimization or do you always follow the route through and through ?

    So a while ago I went out looking for a faster chest run than what is usually recommanded when you want to go for treasure hunter & lucky title (boreal station, no thanks). I was finishing gwamms on several character of mine and while vanquishing I paid to attention to chests location spawns on different maps. Turns out there was one that sticked out to my eyes as having good spawns for chest running. It's Eternal Grove (explorable area) ; and there is actually a reason for it.

    The area can be divided in three main sectors (shown below with yellow borders). Two of which said sectors we will exclude from our for chestrunning because one seems to be affected by the no-chest-near-portal rule and the other one only have 2 rare chest spawns. By taking the right route, you can sweep by most of the possible chest spawns. I indicated them with white circles.

    So how fast is it ? Despite my best effort I couldn't prove it's any faster than Pongmei Valley but it's definitely on par with it. It yields roughly an average of 1,2 Chest/min if done correctly, which is the same as Pongmei. I really wanted to prove that this was faster than Pongmei but after making comparative tests the time-difference seems to be irrelevant (with a tiny tiny advantage for Eternal Grove, I like to be right, huh). I actually have recorded most of my tests (check links below). Now, know that I have a lot flaws and tend to be inconsistent during my runs. I'll acknowledge it may have an effect on the result. Still, I believe that even beyond my inconsistencies my tests are reliable enough to prove my point. Tell me if you think otherwise and I'll make more reliable tests or I invite you to do the same.

    BUT , and I insist ; even if I am wrong about Eternal Grove being the fastest chest run, there's definitely one advantage it has over Pongmei. It can be done in NM while still counting towards the Treasure Hunter title. Meaning that it's the most efficient chest run if you want to go for treasure hunter AND Lucky titles. What about unlucky title ? Well if you didn't know you shouldn't be bothering about unlucky, because by the time you finish lucky title the unlucky one will have been finished for a long time. I can't think of a way of finishing lucky title first, unless you did only shing jea chest run stuff or stayed forever at 9 rings. (If you only want treasure hunter title, I'm pretty sure the fastest way is farming vaettirs to get golden egg during the associated event - yes I like being right - sorry about that).

    I don't know why nobody has ever came up with this chest run because I'm pretty sure there have been a lot of people who would've liked to know about it. It would've saved them some time. I know I was glad I found it when I was doing my title and kind wish I had found it sonner. If you compare it to say, boreal station (which is what, 0,9 or something ?), over thousands of chest the time-difference is somewhat significant (especially that you have to keep running after hitting the 10k chests for lucky points anyway, this reduces the amount of chest or time spent chest running you have to do after treasure hunter by a lot). If it's the fastest chest run in the game, then it is also the fastest kurzick chest run. Pretty sure there are some of you out there that want to chest run those echovald skins. Well, here's the fastest way to do it if it is something you cared about at all. If not, then it is definitely one new chest run you wanna check out.

    What about HM ? I must admit Eternal Grove is quite annoying to run in HM ; you need to have perfect SF and IAU management. It becomes far more easy if you have access to Grog stuff so that you don't have to worry about IAU. It's actually as easy as NM if you have cupcake + Grog.

    Oh, and also, it seems that eternal grove takes better advantage of pcons usage than pongmei. It's not crazy faster though, something like +0,1 chest/min huh; but when you run through I assure you actually get the feeling of getting chests faster.

    Hope this will be useful to anyone. Don't forget double lucky points is live during wayferer's reverie and that it's coming up next week.

    So what you guys think ?

    Route below is just a general route, it often deviates either to check certain spawns or to actually get the chests. See vids for better understanding.

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    Routes & map :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5sh6Z…hDjiunm&index=7 If you want to have a general idea of routes and possible chest spawns location, check this vid

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=…UR-HeXVEF6jU1M8 | If you wanna see slightly more optimized runs, see this playlist ; it contains my pongmei runs too. Keep in mind they're not perfect.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=…WQt5O-ikhDjiunm | Unoptimal Eternal Grove runs

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=…b6Y1i7QcdGUOV_V| Unoptimal Pongmei Valley runs