Posts by Red Fireball

Quote from valent

I’ll take a pic of it later, should be something special if not it wouldn’t be there. I’ve 18 characters to go through, I’ll try to compile everything

you should much rather make a post in the collections section displaying your treasures! a list this long won't be a manageable size for a pc thread.

q8 15^50s can go in the 15-50a ranges for the more standard skins and up to 5000a for the really rare ones (crysta)

q7s like your cele swords are no compare and especially the 15^50 and 5e versions will get huge interest. I'd see them sell for 1000a+ easily

on green items there are a few pre nerf versions that are subtle to detect - ask Unholy or check his thread - he is the expert

q8 +5e are more sought after on one handed items (axe, sword) and less sought after on twohanded than the 15^50 versions

just let us feast upon those screens and post the in an own thread in the collections section for them to be preserved.

and welcome back to the game after this long! thanks for sharing!

Quote from Kugiini

Well I was a bit buffled when a normal Spider mob just outside of Rata Sum dropped a Darkwing Defender for me. I never knew that these could drop those.

don't they drop enameled as well? thanks for sharing! now might need to farm nm a lot to get some 14/6

Quote from T Miles

I Just ID'd a Q10 Skull +30hp +10vs. Charr.

GZ man - great find

I have a wooden buckler q10 10vsCharr +27

ign Red Fireball Rusher

aegis and chaos axe might get you few plat/ecto, but personally I'd merch everything

oh one thing: do not sell anything to a pm for a great sounding price. there is stuff from the old days considered crap then worth tons now. the crysta mentioned is in the 3000-6000a range, standard q8 15^50s go for 25-100a, a q7 perfect hasn't been sold in a while but core skin ones with 12-14% damage modifiers went for 100-300a. so if I can advise anything - don't sell to any pm requests before putting them for auction - in case you intend to sell. if you have what you announce you might as well buy a new car for it. looking forward to seeing something

seems like I found the relevant info on german forum: 2006 May 2nd a pic of a caster broad sword. and the mod had been added a first time on the 26th april update for a brief moment (15min) before being hotfixed according to the thread.

Quote from Unholy

I could be mistaken but wasn't the +5e mod not available on OS items until a couple months after the release of Factions? The order for their availability would've been HoD sword > Rajazan's Fervor (factions release, april 2006) > Totem Axe (Prophecies, added in June 15th 2006 update > other OS items. Is this not the case? Is my timeline for the OS addition mixed up?

The availability for them would've been only a few months before Nightfall came out. The late release of that mod is the explanation for so few q7 +5e swords and q8 +5e prophecies swords.

Edit: That said, I've not seen or heard of any caster dwarven axes (or equivalent skins).

Edit 2: Saw your note in the other thread about the Jan 2017 HoH update. That would give it a few extra months past nightfall, but the main question for me is when the mod became available in the first place. If I knew at some point, I've forgotten.

great input - the point of this thread is exactly to clarify those! I can not remember myself when exactly what was added and for the list rely on the update notes on the official, the fan and the german wiki. when exactly the 5e was added I couldn't find out precisely yet. I know that it must have been before the HoH droo change 2007 jan 19th since this was the latest source of os gold crystas and we see them in 5e. also found forum entries with pics from december 2006 and I'd also argue it was before release of nf on 2006 Oct 7th, since obviously there are some q7 caster swords (and q7 was nerfed latest with release of nf - but the change on reqs wasn't specified on the public notes and since it is not an obvious change like "collector sword xy was changed to yz" couldn't be instantly noticed. it is fun to read forum entries from short after nf release concerning the matter "ofc they do drop. why should they not." "I've had a couple max q8 and also a q7 drop, but I already sold them" and ofc no one could post a screen. retrospectively funny - anyways... XD)

the big req nerf and the addition of caster mods are likely two of the most important notes on this topic and not clarified 100%...

your timeline is interesting - it would narrow down timeframe for the addition of 5e

doing research on the content updates I found that caster crystas were possible drops from the HoH chest for at least 9 months - and not even a handfuk have emerged from that. But since Dwarven axe dropoed there just like the crysta... does a caster dwarven exist? (any req, os)

alright I found the notion of the relevant update! actually it wasn't with nf release when inscs started dropping from HoH but actually 3 months later! I added the info on my content update list:

2007 Jan 19th HoH chest now drops insc items making multiple skins in golden rarity prenerf (crysta, dwarven axe, dwarven hammer)

a question coming with this... Dwarven axe would also have been possible as caster drop from there for at least 9 months whereas I've never heard of one... so... does it exist?

I heard the story of the first q8 15^50 crysta and that one indeed came from a keyless. but then the spot for casters was HoH. thanks for the confirmation

can be closed

I am aware of those other effects of the update I written them in the linked thread - here I just quoted the section relevant to the matter. the parts in bold are those that need clarification, so the point of prenerf 12/-5 ones would be very interesting since that'd mean they didn't come in the same update and hence were added earlier - maybe they were present since day 1? and just the caster mod was added? but yeah that's a different topic - we should discuss in the related thread. coukd you post a pic of a 12/-5 gold one?

here my entire notes to the update:

2006 Apr 26th vamp and zeal only comes from rares anymore - leaving pre searing mods of this kind as pre nerf - suspected to also apply to the "dualvamp" and "dualzeal" inherent mods, increasing the maximum of sundering mods to 20% - leaving old ones like 7/10 as pre nerf, increasing quality of uncommon and rare items - leaving low stat versions pre nerf (like -2wH/7vs dwarf shields, 12wE martials in gold rarity...), changed the quality of runes on armor drops - leaving old drops as pre nerf (gold armor with major rune), added new inherent modifiers +5e, 15/-5e, 15/-10a to pvp (likely also to PvE), removal of the dualreduction as drop?!

short: where did they come from?

extended:

on the one hand as we know there are os caster crystas around - the on MaxBorken is holding would be the most popular one on this site, but to my knowledge at least 3 exist: q9, q11, q13

on the other hand I tried putting together the info on all the relevant content updates, where the main info extracted considering the matter would be:

2005 Sep 7th new system of chests replacing keyless chests

2005 Sep 29th removed keyless chests in Riverside Province and Gates of Kryta

2006 Mar 2nd removed keyless chests in dreadnoughts drift, tascas demise and ice floe

2006 Apr 26th added new inherent modifiers +5e, 15/-5e, 15/-10a likely also to PvE

until few days ago I was assuming, they woukd have come from keyless chests after the +5e mod had been added as drop, but putting together the pieces it looks like there was no such overlap. Now my only solution is that they dropped from HoH chest?! But I do not even know if the gold versions dropped there uninsc? can anyone clear it up? if my theory is correct - until when was it a possible drop?

Any help woukd be greatly appreciated!

quite an update: I finally reached 1/3 completion! what a marathon this were gonna be I´d have never anticipated! 10 years and 1/3... knowing limited exponential growth it should take just another millenium or so until I am done - and that is just phase one - I´ll add the prognosed time frame for the phases in brackets.

#1 get all mod combos (1000years)

#2 get all mod combos in max mods (10000years)

#3 get all mod combos in max mods and desireable req (13,9,8,7) (100000years)

#4 get all mod combos in max mods and desireable req (13,9,8,7) both as Tower Shield and Defender (1000000years)

#5 get all the Tower Shields and Defenders (to infinity and beyond!)

sounds realistic - eh? just please all vote for ANET to not shut down servers too early! Especially the step up from #3 to #4 seems astronomical - since there is barely any supply of Proph Defenders and Factions Tower Shields respectively - since the main farming spots are Nolani and Winds of Change - in HM respectively, where the Charr only drop Towers and the Purity guys only drop Defenders. But what am I worrying about - still 100000years until I´d face those problems anyways^^

I hope to be able to assemble some of the highlights, but really it is about the number...

You can see this is 305 of a total of 915 mod combinations - exactly 1/3. 205 different Tower Shields and 196 different Defender (os dualmod). On top there are some - let me reemphasize "SOME" *erhm "duplicates" - meaning higher req, different order of mods and so on, a whole lot of fun ones (who can have the heart to merch a blue -1ws 16/8?) and of course all the inscribable ones! At those I am at 60 Tower Shields and 51 Defenders - separating into 40 Towers 16/9 gold ins of different value and 20 Defenders respectively - plus the others all in different rarity, moddability, armor or req.

And after those... still around 40 that I need to sell since they are actual duplicates.

Here just a little something for the eye:

I updated the detailed liust in the original post so you can sell me the missing ones at highly outrageous prices :O

Thanks for all the help and keep up the great community - without who I couldn´t have done any of this!

cheers,

Red

frost artifact 1a

yeah I'd put it in the 10-20e range but it might sound biased since I'd like to purchase it

So wait for a few more opinions HdTe1337

M10 1a

2a

Bet Xin Yhu is rubbing his hands already

Shall be yours NotMot

#10 1a...

1. Merch-5e

2. 10-15e

3. 20-40e

4. Uncertain ~100e?!

5. Merch

6. Tough one - put for auction and see I'd guess around 50e

7. 30-50e iirc (might be wrong)

8. 15-25e

9. 5-10e

10. 5-15e

11. 15-40e?!

12. Merch

Hope it helps as a rough guide as which to merch and which to put for sale

#10 60e

there have been various update in the early months of gw that changed drops drastically. This left many old versions that can no longer drop. With time passing those still accessible are available at numerous amount and for little money so that the old stuff - whilst not being better in any means - is just significantly more rare and hence desireable - and the rich players need something to dump their money into. All this shifted the market in a way that things you'd merch 15years ago today is worth more than the pricyest items still dropping.

high req, 20% mod being the hct and div are some major distracts - you can try sell for 5-10e, but I'd rather merch it.

#1,4,6,12,13 merch

#5 15e

#12 30-60e

#11 50e+

#10 10a+

#9 20a+

#8 nice one - very funky at least 15a but I can see it going higher.

#7 a lot. 100a+ but only an auction can tell

#3 very nice 80a+ I'd bet gz nik

#2 5a

Can really just advise to take your time before selling any of the higher valued items...

#10 35e

#10 25e

absolutely agree with Sicilianking - I'd expect 5-10a in no time and eventually 20a+ but it always depends...

what do you want to do with that tower TongTong ?

It shall collect dust in MY chest!

11e

E 40e Red Fireball

you don't see them since they are pretty useless. 5e is only really feasible on one handed weps as caster items whilst ofc there is collectlrs for everything. An amber longbow however is very common so I'd merch it if I were to drop it. Or you can try sell for few ecto.

5e on the down graded tower

As I repeadetly want to check the exact wording and dates of certain fundamental changes to the game, I thought I'd start a list here to share with everyone. The selection is made thus that all updates are included that left behind something to the game as is - pre nerf items of all sorts, outposts unlocked no longer accessible for new chars, areas possible to explore that no longer are... and also those that added major content to put the others in perspective.

Chronological order with brief summary of the relevant fixes, nerfs, features, ...

time line of campaigns, expansions and beyond, major content:

2005 Apr 28th Prophecies

2005 Sep 7th Sorrows Furnace & Titan Quests

2006 Jan 19th Tomb of primeval Kings, Battle Isles

2006 Apr 26th Factions early access, Titles

2006 Apr 27th Factions

2006 Oct 27th Nightfall

2006 Dec 1st Realm of Torment

2007 Apr 19th Hard mode

2007 Aug 31st Eye of the North

2007 Nov 29th Bonus mission pack

2010 Apr 2nd first of 10 updates War in Kryta (last was 2010 Jul 10th)

2010 Dec 16th Hearts of the North, hero Keiran Thackery

2011 July 7th first of 3 updates Winds of Change (last was 2012 Feb 9th), hero Zei Ri

Any input to the layout is very welcome

Hope this helps others!

Need help to clarify or verify sections in bold. If you know anything please share!

Things to check:

anything in bold

green item nerfs

rune nerfs

collector/weaponsmith/quest reward item changes (one point is the -50hp cesta)

nerf of unconditional damage mod

increase of 45wH to 60wH

chang of Ferverborn Staff to Fervorborn Staff (before 2008 Feb 2nd, when wiki entry was changed)

#10 10e pls

T3 15e

T4 15e

Edit: realized I already had a dwarf/ench q9

Ign Red Fireball Rusher

damn... those items.

#2 10a

I'd say that's good. Ghostlys matching 20/20 are really sought after - usually in q9 for collectors or in useable attributes though. Divine being one of the rather useless hct options I'd think the 4a for a q11 is good - but you can wait for other opinions

5a to start off

up - thanks for all the additions - we're close to 1/3 completion!!!

very nice one - I bet it can go 2digit arm range even. I love it

Put for auction and wait for a bit

q13 tower 50e

tower q11 and q13 10e/ea lmk your price

Cheers,

Red