20/10 I'd see at 100e, 19/19 is fun but won't get more than 50e I fear (unless a bidwar under the cheap-alternatives-buyers arises
Congrats and condolences
20/10 I'd see at 100e, 19/19 is fun but won't get more than 50e I fear (unless a bidwar under the cheap-alternatives-buyers arises
Congrats and condolences
thanks for thinking of me Looney and jack l eventreur ! The only fun part about the combination is the name though - the skin is ... so this one is pointless for me unfortunately.
PC I agree with the others: hard to sell - yo'll get 5-10e eventually the question is if you want to invest the time for that few...
i have -3wH +29 tower shield and round shields (q9 and q10 respectively) in my sale thread - in case you'd consider those
Curious what is with the gold value comments. Is it because it’s an axe? I have max Q7s which are all 130ish gold. I don’t know much about prenerf martial weapons.
Anyhow as most have said that axe is fake until proven real. If real I would love to see though
for foci max lowest value is 132g, for swords/shields 136g, for axes 148g. That's why this one cannot be real.
Staff 5-10e, hammer merch
I'm sry, following that logic, we can't say if an item with low merch value is prenerf or isn't.
Ofc we can say one with high value Has been dropped, but the contrary is fals.
That's it precisely! But what is difference with say a q9 sword with a ^50 dmg mod: for 14/15% we can't know wether or not it dropped before or after the merch only in the lower ranges we can be sure - and those are worth by far more - it's absolutely identical (except that it actually is worse that todays items and still worth far more - compared with our gold value example: functionality is same yet it has a tag that tells "hey, I'm prenerf!" - why would you think this one wouldn't find people who prefer it...?)
Saying: the unfairness you're implying is already existent - how many q9 15^50 swords out there dropped prenerf and are never considered as such?
R10 +29 -5/20% crude shields have dropped since the servers were first turned on. And they can still drop today. Some will have dropped since before the great nerfs, and some will have dropped this week. If a gold value range can determine one from the other, then so be it. If there’s is no way to tell, then it cannot be called pre-nerf with any degree of certainty.
It’s about the ones that can be clearly seen to be pre-nerf.
wasn't -3/10 max at first?apart from that: exactly!
yes!
okay let me write a little more:
First:
Something can be prenerf or can not. There´s no room for opinions. It´s like discussing if the something is square or not. There is an easy definition in thise word, which is self-speaking:
pre-nerf = Something from before(=pre) an update, that stopped a thing from happening(=nerf).
Means for drops: a drop that could drop earlier in the game up to a certain point until an update stopped it from being a possible drop - the way the update did fix this is not of importance (e.g. removing keyless chest, changing drop tables directly, changing mobs levels etc.)
Now for the gold value part: today max q8 drops are limited on the top end of value by the gold value range of the requirement. That is the thing that changed with a certain update, that stopped q8 max axes from dropping e.g.: a max dmg axe can drop at lowest at value 36g (now and before that nerf) but what changed is the upper limit for q8: now it is 35g before the nerf it was higher. So identifying an item adds maximum the value of unid item -1 (34g for the upper limit scenario) leading to a max value of todays dropping q8 gold items of 276g (138g for purples respectively) - anything above is pre-nerf. (btw: lowest value of a max weapon has been constant over time (even with the nerf) 132g for foci in gold e.g. 136g gold swords and shields...
If that adds value to it is an entirely different topic - and also not a matter of your opinion, but on market - which in the end is the sum of plenty of opinions, thus you can say what it adds as value for you and the extremum of all those wins Meaning: If you say "Ugh - who cares, why would that matter to anyone" - let me prevent you from posting: it doesn´t matter - since I know, that there is people, who value them slightly higher because of such things.
5,9,21 sb for me please
I do know that Skull Shields with such mod exist, I have one in purple, and they generally drop in same areas (I think?) so pretty sure a skeleton would exist too.
Thanks for the screen! My thoughts exactly - yet I never could find one - I should adapt my WTB thread - maybe something turns up^^
#1 6a - I´d take it
t4t
#11 r/b 40e please
put it up for sale - you'll get 10-20e probably (I heard Agent Chevy collects weird things... )
#12 Req13tac Tall Shield +30 +10vsSlashing - B/O 10e
I´d like to have this one please
May I still give it a shot? :O
My pic(k):
Yet another nice perspective on tyrias crystal desert
2a. (warning: I suck at poetry)
Who loves Defenders?
Who cherishes Tower Shields?
It´s Red Fireball!
(optional replacemant last line: "Zaishen Seraphim")
2b. A chestrunning contest: first one to drop a q8 max shield from an elonian chest in crystal desert (or similar)
3. 65,74,87
4. sry I´m late - won´t curse if you have to leave me out ;D The screen is still worth the post^^
#11 20e pls
yes I like it - added you ingame Chrozinel , hope to see you soon
I have been wondering for some years: does a skeleton Shield with a +armor vs skeletons mod exist? been checking forums for some time but couldn´t find any... I wouldn´t see any reason why they shouldn´t drop, however I couldn´t find any screen either. Could anyone help? Does anyone else see why I´d like such?
those shields - stop posting proph skinned strength shields - I´m drooling
but I can´t help it either...
Thanks so much to the previous owner for letting them go - I will cherish them for the rest of my life - I think those are actually two of my best ones.
okay ikki correctly reminded me of my q8 +30 -2 set... that has to be mentioned in the list of the crown jewels of my collection
In a recent unexpected act of generosity Tyrant made one subset of mine complete: all +10 +30s vs dmg-types. (I know 2 of them are still higher req than 9 - I´m working on it!)
Thank you SO much! - and to everyone else, who is continuously contributing! I´m 15% complete on os, on insc I´d say around 50%... way to go :O
oh lord. What can I say... that's what I love about the game: those items that are so rare that even with that many players and that many years into the game they are truly unique. And that there are items that can still drop, which would be the first of their kind. The mystery and fascination in the hunt for those treasures and those vaults of collectors that are like museums - presenting the finest uniqueness in the guild wars universe still baffle me and keep me into the game - even after all the years. This game is one of the best games out there due to the design of the drop system!
Those q7 15^50 twin hammer, cleaver, short sword, the q8 15% uncond axe... that trolls magmas, q8 20/20 prenerf staves... those are highlights in this national museum of gw history - a glimpse at the titans of an ancient age, presenting a level of perfection that can no longer be achieved by mere mortals.
Thanks to all those legends who posted and let us enter the secret vaults revealing a glimpse at the crown jewels of guild wars! Showing us how a collection can truly be perfect.
Respect.
Offhands
#21 15e
#24 15a
cheers
(nice items btw!)
sweet! some hexy stuff in there, Kairi! That´s the hexiest crysta collection I know!
And Tyrant ... I need those Defenders... vs Piercing and Fire!!!
At the beginning I read all the stats - but after a little while I just read the names - I mean the stats were always perf :O and that -1/-1 shield... even q8...
It is possible that this one could of come from noob island. I think I got 1 or 2 from there but gave up on it quickly because of the speed of farming it. Either way that was still in HM but might explain the lower value?
Noob island could go as low as 40g unid meaning 164g id. So that'd be an option! Or from the few nm runs you mentioned?
Correct! Undercity, in HM too. I was initially doing NM for chance at req8 but the rate of purple to gold was incredibly disheartening, and I found more often then not when a Kappa would actually drop it would be purple. HM was nice cause I made a really nice amount back in Elite Tomes too.
It was also I estimate a 70/30 split between chest running and farming on my Ranger, also in HM.
The one you highlighted dropped in nm however - look at the gold value - for hm that is 204g+ from hm chests in canthan chests territory
After all: at 176g it was at max 43g unid value - might be possible it was even in the q8 unid value range
but man, that is one awesome drop! GZ
yup it indeed seems as if few items from collectors were never changed with the nerf. They do not count for the research but might also be worth mentioning. I'd add a category in op called "out of range items from collectors and quests" and keep track of those there - always fun to see such thanks for the input - it shows there's at least someone else interested - so legitimates a list!
You're gonna love this one - Dropped in Pre-Searing (highest value for an unid purple in pre is supposed to be 16g):
I knew it! Thanks so much for this one C:
That's how 10-17 and 16HSR are possible drops! I'll look into my table later on and see what else it tells... - Just for sake of completeness: from boss?!
finally! Thanks so much for this first representative!
Someone give kairi and pleikki a medal!
And GZ on the insc short sword :O
Was it the fistfight thingie? Where else are stone summits?
But damn... at 33 g already... that is insane! I'd have expected 34-35g as you quoted me... that means that they might be more common than I thought... but ye maybe not I didn't see a lot dropping
will merge it into my statistics asap and see what the maths say about the outcome
What items are in maguuma and elonian chest drop tables that wont drop in canthan chests? Atm I can't think of any and running those two in nm feels like a waste
That is just personal taste I guess - maguuma and elonian chests have a higher chance for the core skins, since - as you correctly stated - there is barely any skin that couldn´t drop from a canthan chest. This said you can say that running canthan chests is a waste, since the chance for a q8 caster short sword is way lower (that is like the holy grail to some) thus - just personal taste. I´d just leave all the options here - which you prefer is your choice and nothing to be calculated.
s5 tower 10e
Q11 str magmas +45^ench 10vs trolls
66e here
lmk b/o if you decide