damn that´s a fun one!
I like to switch first letters in names...
It brought me to a place I really don´t like...
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damn that´s a fun one!
I like to switch first letters in names...
It brought me to a place I really don´t like...
really? I hope this topic is censored...
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I´ll throw 100zkey at the q8 Tower - also I´d love to have that Canthan Cleaver from the free section with it :>
q8 is absolutely possible where you farm. 32-54g unid is the range of lvl 20 mobs and it yields q8s at 32-35g value. Max dmg sword begins at 35g at least maybe 34, max foc starts below 32g already and shields at 33. I am sure you have gotten some q8 over the years and some max dmg sword at 35g, just not both at same. The spot you are farming at is definitely suitable to farm the q8s. Alm that matters is mob lvl. NM or HM will just have an influence on the rare items drop rate as noted in some update notes from anet. I will soon put up an entire research thread that covers everything related to drops - I just didn't find the time so far. Would you mind sending me the items stats in your screen - the ranges are extremely valueable data for my research!
went a little favor farming today (20min in Nolani HM) and got the first two items - think it´s the best shield I got in last 5 years... - quite profitable 20 min (10 unids, 6 of them were shields, 4 of them were dualmod, 2 of them were Tower shields - sadly nonmaxdualmod)
And my favourite latest Tower Shield purchase - I love it! Thanks so much!
You could add the Wintersday banner in background - or make the Wintersday thing the default page when entering Legacy?
Another problem: I really want to participate, but I´m still waiting for snow - I fear it won´t happen ![]()
Don´t expect snow in my pic then :_(
Jungle Troll, Forest Minotaur, Root Behemoth, Minotaur, Rock Eater Scarab, Hill Giant, Desert Griffon, Stone Crusher would be my ideas for a selection of lvl18-lvl22 mobs suitable for drops - mentioned Minotaur and desert griffon are easily farmable - all the others are a little more difficult, to effectively "farm" them, but it might be worth a try nonetheless. Also good spots would be Nahpui quarter Mission with plenty of Star Blades, possibly dropping q8 Crene and Cele swords. but ye... chance is quite low
(but there´s also q8 cele shields which are way more common^^)
Pretty much entire Kaineng city is more or less suitable for q8s just like crystal desert in Proph, since almost all mobs are lvl 20. Some strong Solo Build could do the trick - just bring enough dmg to take out the healers...
I am also still waiting for my first max q8 sword dropping - after some 1offs already, where one was caster even :_(
oh true - sorry, I just checked for the few examples that came to mind (Rose Focus, Tanzits, Ogre Slaying and Willcrusher) and assumed it´d also cover those of unreplicable skin - but I didn´t notice those were all also unreplicable considering stats, so I stand corrected - sorry :>
I have been recently wondering if I could still get the Aion wings somehow... I found a really old yt walkthrough - but the pages don´t exist any longer, I can´t get an Anet Acc, I can´t enter the code there, nothing. If ANYONE could tell me how to still obtain the Aion wings - I´d be very happy. Or would you ask the support for help?
Also I´ve been wondering, if the Guild Wars Shop does still work - since it doesn´t look like intended anymore... any recent experiences?
Thanks!
cheers, Red
alright: summary for everyone:
Shop works, Aion wings from amazon (I wouldn´t trust anyone ingame who claims to sell for ig money - if you want to purchase this way use a trade moderator!)
Thanks for all help!
basically the essentials have been said. I´d like to add little details as to how could be tested and what is worth the effort to do so:
proph/fac:
id all purples, all shields, foci, wands, q8 max items
test all martial weps out of town (while chestrunning) for -1HP reg, -1Ene reg, caster - if negative: sell, if positive: decide (for the -regen ones hit a foe to check if it´s zeal/vamp) sell as unid unless it´s easy to sell or high value (keep in mind -regen could also be 14% ones which would reduce value)
decide with staves - usually I id all q9 and all of rare skin
sell all other golds as unids
nf/eotn:
sell everything gold as unid (or if you care check for shield 45HPwE, 30HP, Vamp Scythe and HSR Foci)
id and merch any purples
just keep those that´d be worth somthing like q9 magmas etc - you get the point
presearing (my advice - I just don´t care enough to differentiate and rather just id everything):
way more difficult, but yes - there are mods worth 10a which justifies the effort maybe
id all foci
check all wands/staves for Ene mods and for HSR, HCT and +1attr mods (by using proper proff skills 10 times - by the skin you can tell proffession and for each proffession there´s just one valueable attr - so test this only) - HSR and +1 id, hct depending on attr
martial weps with high DMG go to lvl0s worms attack and note the number of the crit - you can calculate back the added percentage to the given base dmg and since there is no slaying mod that triggers on worms you can be sure it´s the inherent. if you are not satisfied - sell as unid (on an auction)
any other martial wep do the same on a charr mob - if there´s additional dmg check the worms - if there´s none: id, since you have a charr mod. if there is - check if different or same percentage (roughly - 10%tolerance) if different - again a charrmod, if not can sell unid
shields get yourself a charr axe mob and wait for executioners strike - if reduced dmg id, if not sell
note: difficult since you have to know the mechanics of how dmg is calculated, but once you got the hang of it, it´s straightforward - even though I doubt it´d be worth the effort, just saying it can be done ;D
And I highly doubt said person is really doing this, but some presortement that keeps items with higher chances for higher values is sure possible (e.g. keep all highDMG ones and just sell low DMG, or keep high HSR staves and sell low ones, keep all foci...) I mean that´s the obvious approach ![]()
Alright - Here´s my favourites:
Lians Lantern - I just love the skin, and this is a perf green version - what could be better?
Korr´s Focus and The Kindlerock - my Ele is all white and these are white dyed Flame artifacts (which can otherwise only be applied to few collectors versions...)
Shiro´s Blades - you can not dislike them...
Then the ones that are strange to obtain:
Rose Focus
Zehtuka´s Horn
Then the mentioned ones that are unique in skin or in their combination of mods:
Willcrusher - unique, nostalgia, hard to obtain - no one goes there usually... what else could you ask for?
Tanzit´s Defender - nothing to say here either
Stygian Aegis/Stygian Defender - I mean a Plagueborn skin for Para - even with +30/+10 mods?
And the all time favourite:
Ogre-Slaying Knife - how cool is that?
People generally don't consider greens to have much prestige and I am no exception, but there are three things I don't entirely ignore:
-The ones whose model is either unique or only otherwise available as a PvP reward (e.g, Willcrusher). Unfortunately I don't think there's a list of such items.
-The ones from Sorrow's Furnace for nostalgia's sake, though sadly they're usually badly modded.
-The ones which are modded in a way that is inconsistent with what would usually be possible. All of them are junk too, though.
Maybe a list like this?
bump, please help :O
Ma ideas:
1. 70-200e?
2. Shame 15e max
3. 50e
Could anyone confirm or specify range on 1st?
It´s worth a bit - not a fortune - but a bit. I´d expect to get 15-50e.
insc q8 purple is hard to tell - I´ve only seen one purple Defender like it (and bought it) and it had 3 people interested all offering up to 4arms ~450e I don´t know if this is a realistic price however... I just bid as high, since it was the first of it´s kind I have seen. (I have seen many Tower Shields insc in purple/gold rarity, yet this is the second Defender insc purple/gold I see... seems they are way harder to obtain - can you tell me where?)
the cele shield is 5e if you want to take the time and sell.
Hey, I need advice: (all oldschool)
1. q9 caster Sephis Axe
2. q9 20/20 Div Holy Staff
3. q12 Earth Wand HSR20 HCT10
Thanks for any help in advance!
I changed some of the permissions -some were wrong following the transfer.
Is it possible now to edit posts or not? If not, could you send me the link of the URL so I can check what is going on?
works like a charm - you´re the best!
Hi guys,great work with the new website!
I'm having some trouble finding the button to edit a topic created by me,can you check it out please
I had intensions to edit the stat ranges table - I figured I have no clue where the edit button is either.
Kevin?
Furthermore: Some posts got lost (none that I´d find important, but if some are missing for me I fear some are missing for others as well...) like my most recent bump in my WTB and a bid in a thread in selling... or I must have dreamed to have posted...
Also cosy´s pm didn´t arrive, even though I got E-Mail notification for it.
But besides that - looks cool. Thanks a lot for the efforts!
EDIT: ok here I can edit my post, seems it´s just not working on my WTS thread and the gallery thread... maybe it´s for all posts done before the moveover...? Could you manually grant me rights to edit the gallery thread? I´d rather search for a general solution though, since I bet it´s not just me...
I don´t know what the problem is - I mean... This looks perfect ![]()
will try put new thing up ![]()
#12 20e pls ![]()
Ahhh gotcha now, I wasn't recording the armor amount on the armor pieces, but will start. I ran 38 treasure chests this morning and no luck, istani or kournan. Will try again in 31+ days
Generally if you get one drop that is very off the grid - make a screen with all data at merchant: with the notification in the chat scrolled in to where it dropped with its stats, value, source and your inventory in view. and if you dare to waste the space keep the item unid on a toon for later reference ![]()
I have roughly 6 such items that I found very important - e.g. a 60g staff (HSR18 white), a 59g pair of daggers, a max DMG staff at 35g, a purple armor piece dropped in nf that is unidentified yet doesn´t read "unidentified" meaning a clean item dropping, and two others I can´t reference by head
seems they were not too spectacular?!^^
EDIT: just checked: one is a 20/10 11-21 q8 purple staff, which is an all stat max one for q8, and one is another staff blue that was 58g unid and now is 146 with improved sale value (also 18HSR)
Checked my older data and had foci and armor drops recorded as well thus this oddity seems ruled out. The 35g armor piece still seems interesting - 35g could have a slim chance for max q8
Was it 39 or 40 armor? (Thats what I meant) further investigation would be cool!
Pleikki: I agree that they should drop foci and atmor pieces as well very likely, just pointed it out since those 2 of 4 types that could have been used to prove the normal generation of items in respective to gold value.
@chevy: 35g seems terribly low, I have doubts. What armor did the piece have, where did it happen? We have to further investigate this (35g would leave a slim chance for max q8.)
It´s an Eagle Defender.
General results:
1st and most important: the unid values of the items correspond with those of normal loot absolutely. This may not be directly clear as to why it important, but: that means the drops can be predicted by the range of unid values dropping from the chest. I did compare the unid values of all items, yet those usually have quite a huge range of unid values they can drop in - thus the general comparison might be an indicator yet not too strong evidence, even though just for the sake of completeness: everything fitted in. Differently it is on stats that happen only in one variation: inherent HSR staff mods on gold staves, ene for foci, shields armor and armor piece armor. second and last did not happen to me - I suspect they do not drop? I have far too few data (~50items for the istan island chests) to be able to tell anything about skins but it seems that armor pieces are impossible as well as foci (now that I summarize it like this this is interesting - if anyone could confirm it maybe? - I mean the foci part). So for those stats (HSR of gold staves and arm of shields) there is just a tiny range of unid values that enables one option: My overall data yields for gold/prpl shields: 15arm: 27-33g, 16arm: 33-58g and for gold staves HSR: 18%: 29-37g, 19%: 38-48g, 20%: 49-57g. You see there is almost a direct knowing from the unid value to the related stat. Now in my treasures runs I had many shields and gold staves (10 shields and 10 staves in istan to be precise) and compared the data - and it was all in agreement with my data from other sources. So we can predict the item levels, thus their possible DMG-Ranges and their possible reqs by their unid value range just as well for treasure chests as for other mobs. The only difference - which is no surprise - is the missing cutoff on higher levels. That is an extra feature which has been added to the drop generation: there are highest DMG on weps and highest unid values on unid items. So it seems that just the cutoff for the unid values has not been respected on treasure chests, yet ofc the max DMG cutoff has been ofc ::D
So the next point:
2nd: There are 5 categories of treasure chests:
istan (issnur,Mehtani) 31-49g unid items
kourna (Arkjok,Bahdok,Jahai) 44-62g unid items
vaabi (Mirror,Jahai,Ahdashim) 51-68g unid items
desolation (Ruptured,Sulfurous) 58-72g unid items
realm (Pain,Jahai) 66-72g unid items
in correspondance with the classification by region on wiki (I did not have all the min and max values from all the chests in a category yet, but I had similar and see huge discrepancies between chests from different regions, thus I´d say this one is correct) Also I do suspect the given ranges are not entirely exact, might get items a little out of range, since collecting data on these is slow... as said 50 items in istan so far (and corresponding in other areas).
Now the conclusion:
3rd:
a) istan type treasure chests will be perfect for q8s even tho it seems only shields and swords can be obtained of those weapons still dropping in max q8. They have a slight different unid value range than the lvl20 mob (whose range is 32-54g) but that is nothing to worry about if the entire theory is true since it obviously doesn´t have any lvl 19.75 or something - NO it just supports the point that items have a "level" and that the mob lvl is just used to automatically generate a rang of item "levels" to drop from them rather than typing in manually a table into the gw drop code that lists for all mobs what level of items they can drop - If questioning anything about the drops think of it like a programmer: how to you easily establish a drop algorithm that yields these results we see? so for treasure chests I don´t know how they determined the ranges, but I don´t have the limits clear enough yet as to make any conclusions.
b) while generating nonmax weapons which obviously are in consonance with the 44-62g unid range, kournan treasure chests won´t get you any q8s (except purple staves)
c) all the other treasure chests will be great to get max damage items but you´ll never in your life see a q8 there (unless maybe purple staves)
this is the closest we could get to "prove" something not dropping q8 - by figuring the drop mechanism and from there determine the limits
EDIT:
and you miss out: zaishen chest - no (I hope we don´t have to argue about that ;D - or you guys show me the q8 insc crysta, CC, BDS, Volti ...)
furthermore with these statements I think we could change the other treasure chests to a "no" (maybe even summarize it a little to make it easier to see - like treasure chests: istan: yes, Kourna: no, Vaabi: no ...)
EDITEDIT:
fun fact: also got an adamantine just like yours
15-21 q8
I've tested the keyless nf chests over the past months and finally yday got gold max q8 shield from mehtani after countless nonmax q8. Will edit this and addd screen as soon as I find time. Drops on issnur are in same range yet I didn't get lucky yet - so it's just a matter of time for the screen satisfaction part. Other findings I'll add as well, briefly: these two can drop q8s others can't.
Cheers (SF coming up next...)
I believe this takes the prize for lowest-damage axe -It dropped in Presearing, from either a level three Bandit Blood Sworn or the bandit called Alain, who is also level three.
Dammit.. this is mind blowing... wish you'd have left it unid, but too late. It dropping from your sources (bandits/alain) seems unlikely yet possible. Is it possible it came from a hidden stash or an innocent aloe seed along the way? I did do 2000kills killing all kinds of lvl 0-3 mobs, but nothing so far (but I only had a hand full of axes drop and just one of them had a value of 1g while unid. If you still have the axe I'll buy it for 5k (pre) if anyone has one in those stats unid/white I'll pay 1bd. And help me find out where to drop them!
Thanks a lot for the contribution - glad there's still ppl who care!
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