Outcast Shield Q8 str +43ench -2ench 1000e
Posts by PyroLobster
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Because when you collect something you want more of the same
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but still, that one millisecond you see Q8 and its Gold, so satisfying.
(Then ofc its just misery and all ur dreams are broken)
Got this other day. Pretty satisfying dropping, IDing and looking up post nerf max dmg for hammer
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Q4/11 bladed - 10e
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Purple Talon dags - 10e
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Bone Idol - 5e
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Trip Platinum Wand Spawning - 1a
Trip Platinum Wand Death - 1a
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So this is max? staffs stats are so messed up
Kinda assuming its a mistake and 18% was suppose to max HRS for purple and Gold was to be 20%?
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30 - Embossed Aegis q9 tac +45we Dazed 20% - 15e
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Skeleton - 100e
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OS Q9 Tac Ornate Shield +30hp, +10 vs Ogres r/b
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I like triples as well. Call me
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A1 21ecto + 1 frozen ecto
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SWS r/b 150e
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Shadow Bow q9 15/-1 Dualvamp - B/O 40e
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Found this in guru achieve. Dunno who posted or if they fake/real. Anybody know anything about these?
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I was 99.9% sure 8% and 18% are prenef and as Red confirms then I'm 100%. A madlad calculation would be what were all the prenerf possibles.
I can say with certainty 16% was possible cause its on my fav wand in the game:
I don't recall seeing a 15% but have a feeling it was possible? perhaps even 14%? I know min on shield was 6vs so was 6% min for wand mods also? Red Fireball Pleikki will likely have that answer. prenerf caster stuff is not my area of expertise so will have to defer to somebody else on that. + all the lower bounds of other mods need to be figured out. If we could get clarification on that could run numbers for total possibles prenerf vs postnerf. What a giant nerdy waste of time that would be haha. Lets do it
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I've tried to do similar calculations before mostly for shields, and did staffs once. It's crazy. Couple things in ur numbers:
1. Unless I've gone completely mad isn't an 8% and 18% on a gold wand prenerf? Please somebody call me mad if I am
2. Didn't see a mention of 15-1 and 14-1 mods as possibles
The final value gives you total possible combinations but when you make it into a ratio of 1:xxxx its using the assumption that all variables have an equal chance. We all know that chance of 2 mods is lower than 1 so there is a problem with weighting of variables just from that. So its not exactly accurate to represent them in this way. Taking it a step further I've always believed that different mods have a different drop chance. There is some mods (and mod combos) that from 15 years of observation just seem to be rarer than others and even a difference because of skin. There no way to account for these kinda discrepancies so targeting 1 combination might be even worse that the number your calculation gives lol. Total speculation, can't confirm without anet showing a drop table and the code behind it but its an assumption I've always held. Anybody else think this way?
All that withstanding I like the way ur mind works
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I know I want the 10vs plants -5/20%
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Captain Krompdown I love you but u made some mistakes here.
The argument for obliterating the PC forum is that PCs add nothing of value and are just noise.
One of my early suggestions was to remove the PC forum but not to remove its function of discussing prices. That function would be moved onto sell threads themselves. Leaving people to comment on price once there is more information known about market conditions via the bids received). Obvious has drawbacks I won't bother to outline. This suggestion is extreme, was based in my belief that PC thread was to toxic to bother reforming. After discussion and reading others opinions its now an option I don't support. There is a better way. IMO PC thread can remain for 3 separately defined purposes.
#1 Telling people when something isn't worth selling "merch food" - This already functions well fine under current structure.
#2 Telling people the current "standard price/range" of commonly traded items. - What falls into the category is another discussion to be had.
#3 When an uncommonly traded item comes up we "experts" admit we aren't experts at all on this and don't give guesses posed as prices estimates. Instead we inform the seller that only the market can tell you, after that perhaps we can advise you on if its a good time to sell using real data. In addition we provide advise on how to sell to get the best outcome (avoiding lowballs).
^ This is what I suggest. Not a change in rules of the forum that needs enforcing but instead anybody offering a response considers these guidelines and acts accordingly. There is also space for making #2 and the advise post auction of #3 more accurate with suggestions like Agent Chevy gave about keeping better track of sales.
Am I alone in thinking this is the appropriate way to approach PC Thread? If everybody is happy with the status quo and thinks this change is not a good idea id really like to know. PM if you prefer.
But the other side of the same coin (and several people have mentioned it in passing) is that the seller has to find the price acceptable before an item is actually sold. It's not just the case that the highest bid automatically triggers a sale.
I completely agree. Here I think you are unintentionally conflating the results of the market pricing items with what the item must or will sell for. The point of sale is not tied to the outcome of this pricing mechanism. There is no forced commitment to buy or sell on legacy. The conclusion of a sell thread (done as outlined previously with marketing, kama ect) will give you the most accurate "fair market price" in the present that's achievable in this system. If anybody disagrees with that statement, please tell us the better existing alternative. What the seller decides to do with that result is a separate issue. I addressed this in a previous post where I suggest this is the better point for opinions on price (outline above in the 3 point plan also haha). That is to say once you have a number firmly based in reality, opinions on numbers become far more useful. Ultimately the seller has a binary choice: Right now do I want x or do I want to keep my item. Using experience of others and personal research at this stage is far superior method than before any real offered price is known.
I wont address most of rest of your essay directly because its criticism concerning psychology and sociology type stuff (which are mostly valid) but I think sprouting from the assumption I want to remove PC thread and point everybody at an auction all the time. While this is the only definitive way to find the "fair market price" at any given point in time in the real world there is a balance to be found between accuracy and convenience. My whole argument is when that balance is wildly swinging away from accuracy we stop and reconsider. In such circumstances I believe offering "minimum prices" and alike is simply dishonest and shouldn't be done even when it has no malice or ulterior motives attached.
Hope that's clarified my current thoughts.
Pyro
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bladed dragons - 15e
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^ This guy gets it. 100% agree on everything.
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I know ur capable of merching these so put me down for 5e on each max armor shark and lets avoid that outcome
