Posts by Red Fireball

^late bump - added q0 scythe as well as r/b on some items that do have offers already.
cheers

one of those rare bumps in here again

another bump - added r/b and b/o on Tower vs Demon

1 I´d take it - but ye it´s merch
2 h2s but could get 20e
3 h2s but could get 20e
4 merch (lowreq strength shields are pretty much useless and 15/8 is even 1 off...)
5 100e or little more if you are lucky

Here a small sub-collection of the big project...

Huge THANKS to Yoji for the opportunity to continue his task - and to everyone else, who contributed!

(Yes I know there are some, that could be considered duplicates and yes there are many missing - esp on the creature part... Work in progress!)

this is a bump here - sold some items ingame and added some 16/8 insc shields for sale.

Todays drops made me a little sad and happy at same...
That Defender broke my heart :_(

And definitely not today, but another day this year this happened:

Yoji came to give me this unique beauty along with some +30 +10 and +29 +10 Tower Shields/Defenders (will post them in collections thread whenever I find time :O)
Thanks so much Yoji - sorry it´s a little late to post on here, but had been gone 6months as well
This is definitely one of the crown jewels of my collection :>

1. 5e
2. merch-5e
3. 15-20e
4. 15-20e
5. merch-5e
6. 25e, if you find a collector: more
7. 30e, if you find a collector: significantly more
8. 100e+
9. 100e
10. -12. dito Blink

bump again

bump here sold Raven Staff and few others ingame

Defender is strength as always on that skin

Was too fast picking the second one up - sry. But thus Mehtani and Issnur drop q8. From the other drops I got it made the impression to be lvl20 as well (got many nonmax, items from q8 to q13 both is typical for lvl 20) but ye - to determine that for sure more data would be suitable

Quote from GhostKairi

Red is all knowing and I completely agree with him on all accounts. However when I came back to play for a while me and my brother did Sorrows Furnace extensively for fun (we flooded the market of purples xD) I can say with 100% confidence that we had req8 from the second and third kilroy chest. It was only focus and shields, but still. All in all it means nothing unless it's a req8 crystalline, but req8 can definitely come from those chests. If I recall I "looked" into it at one point and noted no difference in level between keyless chests. Maybe it's because of their drop tables or mob relation.

Alright - I did not a hell lot of research on those - thus I agree we can make more research there - could you check if you have a screen of either chest dropping q8? Since even tho I did not too much research on them everything added up - the stats, the unid values and the logic. I´ll definitely look into that again. For anyone who´d like to help on the drop research part: unid value (value of item at trader while item is unidentified), exact stats, mentioning the drop source, nm or hm, and if it´s a odd one (any q8 for example, nonmax stuff) - a screen with the item on ground assigned to you. That would cover all relevant data I guess.

Quote from IvoryR

I got a gold q8 shield of the lion from one of the istan treasure chests.. but it was years ago. I'll dig and see if I screened it.

That´d be cool!

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25.1.A) 50e
26.14) 1000e + q10 version
26.15) 1000e + q10 version
the +q10 version is optional if you have interest - if not the 1000e themselves stand for the moment - let me know the b/os on these two please - I need them!
20.1) 100e
Red Fireball Rusher

Quote from Emma

I'm dutch and we write the same. it's logical though

Americans... inches and foot - wait we´re getting offtopic...

Back on topic to what ikki said:

Quote from Pleikki

300-450g chests only ones that can drop it. lvl Range IS 17-21 that drops q8. And for other. Maguuma IS lvl 18 kourna cantha And elonian lvl20.

HM shing jea And ascalon lvl22. All 600g+ are lvl24+
Kryta lvl 15.

For other chests 1st keyless on killroys quest lvl20, 2nd 22 And 3rd 24. Fow/uw keyless lvl24.

And ive had drop of q8 each of chests i started yes

this is close, yet there are some data wrong, but I cleared that in my previous post (Maguuma is 17, Kryta 14). I know you agree, since we did this together

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And i want to add here as you edites yes to lvl22 chests on OP that i Said The Range IS lvl17-21 so No to killroys And ascalon/shing jea HM. Figured If id edit My Post you wouldnt notice this. Hence double post

I would personally put ? On those lvl22 since noneone Been able prove they Cant drop q8 but i guess IT might have 0.00000001% change until someone proves IT wrong

PS. Sorry For super Bad writing using My phone And The autocorrect IS shiz

No one will ever be able to prove something does not drop. We can only generate enough data in order to tell it´s very likely. I figured out pretty much how the drops are generated, yet there could always be that one drop, that changed everything - but after 10000 items logged one could be pretty sure on certain things... So far any "no" will be a "most likely no".

No offense at all, just clarification.

Quote from Emma

It's only 8 days old

Oh - classic

well I´m german and we write the dates as day - month - year thus I thought it was from march (ye I still get confused sometimes...)

see it as a over-dramatification XD

Holy... how come I have never seen this thread before?

I asked myself the same question and did excessive research... The possible requirement depends on the unid value of items. q8 is possible up to 35g unid value (speaking of gold and purple items excluding purple staves, which work differently) while max foci will drop at unid values as low as 32g, shields as low as 33g and swords as low as 34g.
Second thing to know is: the unid value of items, that come from certain source, depends just on their level - and even though not shown on the target window as on mobs, chests do have a level as well.
Now there are chests of different levels:
(5-11g) lvl7: Ascalonian, Shing Jea, Istan and the chest during the quest "The Deserters" (which only generates blue drops though)
(10-18g) lvl11: Steel
(15-27g) lvl14: Krytan
(22-37g) lvl17: Maguuma
(32-54g) lvl20: Elona, Canthan, Kournan, first chest in sorrows furnace during Kilroy´s quest (nm and hm have no difference in chest level here)
(40-60g) lvl22: locked chests in Ascalon, Shing Jea, Istan, second chest in sorrows furnace during Kilroy´s quest (nm and hm have no difference in chest level here)
(50-57g) lvl24: all others (dungeon endchests, locked chests EotN nm, all other locked chests, ...it´s too many to list them all...)
Thus: lvl 17 and lvl 20 chests can drop max q8 foci, swords and shields, same accounts for mobs: lvl 17-20 can drop those, best chance is on lvl20s, since the lower possible unid values that mobs of certain level can drop are far more frequent than higher ones.
Thus referring to the thread: All that is stated in OP is agreed EXCEPT: Sorrows Furnace second chest will definitely not drop any q8 item (except purple staves since those work differently and are actually possible in that range)!
Furthermore I can fill you in almost all the gaps:
Sorrow's Furnace (Kilroy's Quest) Keyless Chest #3 (Purples only) - no (nm and hm likewise)
Shing Jea Locked Chest - no
Nightfall HM: Locked Chest - no
The Fissure of Woe Keyless Chest - unfortunately I have no clue, sry - never did this - but will do in future whenever there is time!
EOTN
Normal Mode
Locked Chest - no
Dungeon Chest - no
Hard Mode
Locked Chest - no
Dungeon Chest - no

So far the regulars - now there is more chests though: the keyless treasure chests in nf. Those are weird: the unid value is generated differently on those, thus the ranges are not as easy to tell on here. I have far too few data on this since I can only open the chests every 3 moths - for the other items I have logged more than 10000... so see you in the next millenium on these You might want to add them in your list and the community might want to post screens: if you find a max DMG Focus, Sword or Shield on a chest, if you find any q8 item other than a purple staff. Best while on ground and reserved for you (black out name if you want) That´d help on this. Until we have proof of all this - there is uncertainty (yet I heard of q8 max shields/foci coming from the ones on istan - yet no screens)
So far by the statistics I can tell that only Istan and Kourna keyless ones have a chance of being able to generate q8s - all the others won´t. But on Istani and Kournan ones I lack data in order to tell for sure...

And on a different note: a source dropping max q8 foci doesn´t tell 100% it will drop max q8 swords as well... but those are details For chests the statement is true - so it´s ok in here!

Hope this could help a little...
I´m open for questions - if there is any... :O

~Red

Quote from Vizi

I got a q12 +45/-2wE somewhere if you'd like

Thanks for the offer - already got a q9 version with those mods tho

This is a bump

bump - thanks for all the additions ingame

kind of late bump

Hey vizi,
I´d like to buy the following:
Tower Shield q9 +10 Piercing +1(20%) Blood - B/O 10e
Red Fireball Rusher

Defender Q12 str +30hp +10vsOgres - 33e
Outcast Staff Q9 Spawning 20/20 Spawning - 50e

ign Red Fireball Rusher

The Q9 perfect :

37) Str Defender +30HP -5(20) c/o 750e b/o -

Red Fireball Rusher

cheers Smile

The Q9 perfect :

37) Str Defender +30HP -5(20) c/o 100e b/o -

Red Fireball Rusher

cheers

bump - busy times, didn´t forget about you itbitme

bumping this again

bumping here - thanks for some fun new ones ingame!

Thanks for trades so far - still got some left :O

Tall 25e
Red Fireball Rusher

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Quote from Kevin

I'll look into all of those, but to be honest I've got a quite hefty to-do list already, so it may take a while.
a) I haven't added any styling to the tables yet - it's still the default theme styling. I'll look into it when I can
b) Same as above, I'll need to modify the styling of it
c) Same as above
d) Could do that
The table=5 indicates how big your table is. Putting it on 100 will let the table take the entire width, 50% half of it, etc..

don´t rush it - we stayed in gw1 for more than 10 years - we are not the folks who need quick changes

also I found a rather confusing thing: whenever I post or preview my post there are some empty lines added to my "code" - noticed it in the tables, also it seems as though those empty lines between rows of the table code generate a bigger distance between the table and the text above it... dunno if either is supposed to happen?!

And damn that table=5 is even useful then! - Thanks for enlightening me!

Quote from cosyfiep

first change I would do for the staff table (I cant even see req 12 or 13) is to change the name of the staff gold/purple...put a space after the / so that it goes to a new line (same for white/blue) might want to just change the title from req to staff....

Thanks there - changed it, looks better (even though my screen was wide enough or my font small enough to show the entire thing, so I didn´t notice)

finally I got a little time and here is the updated listvisible.

I´d propose some convenient changes - if that is possible (I´m not at all into this end of programming...):

a) maybe alternating color background for the rows

b) smaller height for the rows so the entire table doesn´t spread too far (with above idea it should be even better possible to have an overview)

c) Lines between cells and around the entire table - I see, the th version will do exactly that, but the text colour is too faint there

d) some options to highlight column and row descriptions

ok, I realised point c) and d) would be fixed by: 1. keeping lines with the td cells and 2. making the font black on the th cells

also does the table=5 mean anything? It has bothered me on guildwarsguru for a long time, as the 5 just seems to be a title for the table which is nowhere shown...

awesome - thanks for the help! I´ll try Kevins version whenever I find some spare minutes - if it wouldn´t work I´ll try Max´s or Lexx´s table versions - tbh they look more appealing in their demo posts, Kevin!

Huge thanks Kevin! you´re the governor!

I recently tried to get some research content back on here (see https://guildwarslegacy.com/thread-453.html) but I have trouble getting any kind of table working. BB-Code, HTML or any option on the menu when posting a new thread/post - couldn´t find any working way to do it. There has been the BB-Code solution on old guildwarsguru which was very convenient - I´d also go into the HTML-coding, if there is a way to embed such in a post, the third option I assume would be too much. Hope you can help me - maybe there even is an option already that I´m not aware of?!
cheers, Red

bumping early in 2017 :O

bring up my post

1. 1e tops (nonmax) - I´d use it myself or merch/hero
2. ~2e
3. merch
4. 10-15e
5. merch
6. 50-100e or more these days
7. ~2e
8. merch
9. 1e/merch
10. 1e/merch
11. 10-15e (not sure)
12. might get few ectos don´t expect a lot tho
so pretty much dito - except first (guess you didn´t see nonmax there)

guesstimation of mine:
Gothic - fun 10-20e or maybe more for dragonborn
Ornate difficult - not best combo imo, but some ppl love it - wide range of 5-30e depending...
Paper Fan - somewhat useless yet somewhat matching - still of, but rare skin - I´d put it for sale and see... doubt it´ll get more than 10e - I might be totally wrong, but I´d expect like 10k personally
Amber - again difficult... but I see it getting more than 20e
nut sure on most - just to get a start at the PC I hope^^^(or is it outdated already?)

What a thread - how come I never seen it before?

I thought a bit, but my thoughts went the same direction as Jimbo´s...

or maybe one of my beloved shields...

guildwarslegacy.com/attachment/63/

but no... I think the Scythe is my choice!

I have seen it short after the Mausoleum bug and just had to have it - if I remember correctly it cost 105e or 111e - a bargain as I see it nowadays - best choice! I even made several Builds for my warr using it, since it was too cool - Warriors endurance and strength/Scythemastery is a great choice - but usually melonni is happily using it - after all dervish might be the better scythe master...

Do you wonder what the game's currently dropping maximum and minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!

Please post pictures so I can add the numbers into the table and the community has a way to verify it this way

q3 - q13 still drops in gold
q0 - q13 still drops in purple
q0 - q12 still drops in blue and white
min DMG for a purple q0 is higher than for a blue/white q0

min DMG for a gold q3 is higher than for a purple q3

Notes:

• This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement. If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!
• Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need the stats (of course) and the roughest time of it dropping (before or after the big nerf around realease of nightfall?) Ideally you have a screen of the item while laying fresh on the floor still assigned to your character.
• Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.
• Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-22 and 7-21 for the q5 axe.) Staves are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.
• We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here be happy and a) keep them as a fun reminder or b) merch them instantly as you hit the low part of the record or c) sell to some crazy UW/DoA/whatever farmer, who will pay you thousands for it
• For items which still drop today, there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level.
• Thanks a lot to Luny for starting and taking care of this thread over the first 1.5 years!

Thanks to everyone who helps out!

If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let me know!

Personal ToDo:

Make clear we look for post nerf

list prenerf maxes properly