Posts by Red Fireball
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After the q12 43wE -2wE Tower Shield that dropped last week I got two q9 unid ones in nolani - yay.
But it was just the next kick in the teeth...
I miss the -2wE +10vsGiants tower shield and the -2wE +10vsTrolls tower shield to complete my -2wE +10 collection... I have all the other 16 versions...
I suppose the game just hates me
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B15 80e
B16 80e
E25 10e
E26 15e
E29 5e
E30 10e
E31 5e
E97 5ePlease let me know b/o on the tower shields + defenders
nice items you gathered there btw
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If still relevant - check here: https://www.guildwarslegacy.com/thread-1839.html
If not - just ignore and close the thread -
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1 I´d take it - but ye it´s merch
2 h2s but could get 20e
3 h2s but could get 20e
4 merch (lowreq strength shields are pretty much useless and 15/8 is even 1 off...)
5 100e or little more if you are lucky -
Here a small sub-collection of the big project...
Huge THANKS to Yoji for the opportunity to continue his task - and to everyone else, who contributed!
(Yes I know there are some, that could be considered duplicates and yes there are many missing - esp on the creature part... Work in progress!)
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Todays drops made me a little sad and happy at same...
That Defender broke my heart :_(And definitely not today, but another day this year this happened:
Yoji came to give me this unique beauty along with some +30 +10 and +29 +10 Tower Shields/Defenders (will post them in collections thread whenever I find time :O)
Thanks so much Yoji - sorry it´s a little late to post on here, but had been gone 6months as well
This is definitely one of the crown jewels of my collection :> -
1. 5e
2. merch-5e
3. 15-20e
4. 15-20e
5. merch-5e
6. 25e, if you find a collector: more
7. 30e, if you find a collector: significantly more
8. 100e+
9. 100e
10. -12. dito Blink -
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Was too fast picking the second one up - sry. But thus Mehtani and Issnur drop q8. From the other drops I got it made the impression to be lvl20 as well (got many nonmax, items from q8 to q13 both is typical for lvl 20) but ye - to determine that for sure more data would be suitable
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Red is all knowing and I completely agree with him on all accounts. However when I came back to play for a while me and my brother did Sorrows Furnace extensively for fun (we flooded the market of purples xD) I can say with 100% confidence that we had req8 from the second and third kilroy chest. It was only focus and shields, but still. All in all it means nothing unless it's a req8 crystalline, but req8 can definitely come from those chests. If I recall I "looked" into it at one point and noted no difference in level between keyless chests. Maybe it's because of their drop tables or mob relation.Alright - I did not a hell lot of research on those - thus I agree we can make more research there - could you check if you have a screen of either chest dropping q8? Since even tho I did not too much research on them everything added up - the stats, the unid values and the logic. I´ll definitely look into that again. For anyone who´d like to help on the drop research part: unid value (value of item at trader while item is unidentified), exact stats, mentioning the drop source, nm or hm, and if it´s a odd one (any q8 for example, nonmax stuff) - a screen with the item on ground assigned to you. That would cover all relevant data I guess.
I got a gold q8 shield of the lion from one of the istan treasure chests.. but it was years ago. I'll dig and see if I screened it.That´d be cool!
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25.1.A) 50e
26.14) 1000e + q10 version
26.15) 1000e + q10 version
the +q10 version is optional if you have interest - if not the 1000e themselves stand for the moment - let me know the b/os on these two please - I need them!
20.1) 100e
Red Fireball Rusher -
I'm dutch and we write the same. it's logical though
Americans... inches and foot - wait we´re getting offtopic...
Back on topic to what ikki said:
300-450g chests only ones that can drop it. lvl Range IS 17-21 that drops q8. And for other. Maguuma IS lvl 18 kourna cantha And elonian lvl20.HM shing jea And ascalon lvl22. All 600g+ are lvl24+
Kryta lvl 15.For other chests 1st keyless on killroys quest lvl20, 2nd 22 And 3rd 24. Fow/uw keyless lvl24.
And ive had drop of q8 each of chests i started yes
this is close, yet there are some data wrong, but I cleared that in my previous post (Maguuma is 17, Kryta 14). I know you agree, since we did this together
And i want to add here as you edites yes to lvl22 chests on OP that i Said The Range IS lvl17-21 so No to killroys And ascalon/shing jea HM. Figured If id edit My Post you wouldnt notice this. Hence double postI would personally put ? On those lvl22 since noneone Been able prove they Cant drop q8 but i guess IT might have 0.00000001% change until someone proves IT wrong
PS. Sorry For super Bad writing using My phone And The autocorrect IS shiz
No one will ever be able to prove something does not drop. We can only generate enough data in order to tell it´s very likely. I figured out pretty much how the drops are generated, yet there could always be that one drop, that changed everything - but after 10000 items logged one could be pretty sure on certain things... So far any "no" will be a "most likely no".
No offense at all, just clarification.
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It's only 8 days oldOh - classic
well I´m german and we write the dates as day - month - year thus I thought it was from march
(ye I still get confused sometimes...)
see it as a over-dramatification XD
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Holy... how come I have never seen this thread before?
I asked myself the same question and did excessive research... The possible requirement depends on the unid value of items. q8 is possible up to 35g unid value (speaking of gold and purple items excluding purple staves, which work differently) while max foci will drop at unid values as low as 32g, shields as low as 33g and swords as low as 34g.
Second thing to know is: the unid value of items, that come from certain source, depends just on their level - and even though not shown on the target window as on mobs, chests do have a level as well.
Now there are chests of different levels:
(5-11g) lvl7: Ascalonian, Shing Jea, Istan and the chest during the quest "The Deserters" (which only generates blue drops though)
(10-18g) lvl11: Steel
(15-27g) lvl14: Krytan
(22-37g) lvl17: Maguuma
(32-54g) lvl20: Elona, Canthan, Kournan, first chest in sorrows furnace during Kilroy´s quest (nm and hm have no difference in chest level here)
(40-60g) lvl22: locked chests in Ascalon, Shing Jea, Istan, second chest in sorrows furnace during Kilroy´s quest (nm and hm have no difference in chest level here)
(50-57g) lvl24: all others (dungeon endchests, locked chests EotN nm, all other locked chests, ...it´s too many to list them all...)
Thus: lvl 17 and lvl 20 chests can drop max q8 foci, swords and shields, same accounts for mobs: lvl 17-20 can drop those, best chance is on lvl20s, since the lower possible unid values that mobs of certain level can drop are far more frequent than higher ones.
Thus referring to the thread: All that is stated in OP is agreed EXCEPT: Sorrows Furnace second chest will definitely not drop any q8 item (except purple staves since those work differently and are actually possible in that range)!
Furthermore I can fill you in almost all the gaps:
Sorrow's Furnace (Kilroy's Quest) Keyless Chest #3 (Purples only) - no (nm and hm likewise)
Shing Jea Locked Chest - no
Nightfall HM: Locked Chest - no
The Fissure of Woe Keyless Chest - unfortunately I have no clue, sry - never did this - but will do in future whenever there is time!
EOTN
Normal Mode
Locked Chest - no
Dungeon Chest - no
Hard Mode
Locked Chest - no
Dungeon Chest - noSo far the regulars - now there is more chests though: the keyless treasure chests in nf. Those are weird: the unid value is generated differently on those, thus the ranges are not as easy to tell on here. I have far too few data on this since I can only open the chests every 3 moths - for the other items I have logged more than 10000... so see you in the next millenium on these
You might want to add them in your list and the community might want to post screens: if you find a max DMG Focus, Sword or Shield on a chest, if you find any q8 item other than a purple staff. Best while on ground and reserved for you (black out name if you want) That´d help on this. Until we have proof of all this - there is uncertainty (yet I heard of q8 max shields/foci coming from the ones on istan - yet no screens)
So far by the statistics I can tell that only Istan and Kourna keyless ones have a chance of being able to generate q8s - all the others won´t. But on Istani and Kournan ones I lack data in order to tell for sure...And on a different note: a source dropping max q8 foci doesn´t tell 100% it will drop max q8 swords as well... but those are details
For chests the statement is true - so it´s ok in here!
Hope this could help a little...
I´m open for questions - if there is any... :O~Red
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Defender Q12 str +30hp +10vsOgres - 33e
Outcast Staff Q9 Spawning 20/20 Spawning - 50eign Red Fireball Rusher
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The Q9 perfect :
37) Str Defender +30HP -5(20) c/o 750e b/o -
Red Fireball Rusher
cheers Smile
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The Q9 perfect :
37) Str Defender +30HP -5(20) c/o 100e b/o -Red Fireball Rusher
cheers
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