3 - 15e
32 - 10e
34 - 5e
42 - 5e
55 - 20e
56 - 30e
ign Adanel Jade
3 - 15e
32 - 10e
34 - 5e
42 - 5e
55 - 20e
56 - 30e
ign Adanel Jade
I agree with Neutral that there is no perfect solution that can keep out 100% of botters. However, less than 100% is still better than nothing.
So far, the forum content that sparked this thread has all come from the same source. I'm probably naive but removing threads like Ether's would be a good first step. It might turn into a game of whack-a-mole for the mods if there are other botters starting to focus on oldschool items and selling on here, but that's not a given.
Bluey's idea of tagging suspected botters deserves some consideration. Obviously you shouldn't allow users to do this (removing reactions from selling/buying forums was a good decision), but mods can do it based on some internal list of conditions being met. The suspected user then has the opportunity to somehow prove that he is not botting, which takes the burden of proof off the mods. I also agree with San that you can allow yourself to be less than 100% politically correct (although you should watch out not to censor too much dissenting content; we don't want the whole board to become an echochamber of snowflakes).
Finally, now I'm just brainstorming but could it be viable to allow buying of botted items here? Could you make some kind of section where users can say "I want to buy botted items" and the botter can then contact them with a link to their own website/discord/shared document or whatever? This way, it would be less of a problem for botters if their sales threads are removed and they might try that option before making new accounts etc.
Btw there it is, the classic kromp moment bringing his guild into the discussion out of no where, completely unrelated. For the new spectators, check out previous versions of this act for example here or here. Apparently derailing this thread is in his and others' interests, so I'm looking forward to the next move.
These kind of things can be incredibly difficult to prove and while I realise some threads/items are likely a lot more obvious than others it is simpler for moderators and posters to follow existing rules.
you cant really tell what is botted or not.
I cannot know if an item I bought has been botted, stolen, or cheated. There's no way for me to find out
The only way to be unsure about whether the items sold by Purely/Autism Awareness Is Back/Ether were botted is by burying your head in the sand (which is what I did in nov/dec). That's what the legacy team chooses to do by requiring evidence but not having the means to gather or assess it. Which is what I would do, too, if I were a moderator; things get messy and it will be too much work to sort them out. This has advantages as well, such as giving users more freedom to determine the forum's contents.
Regarding forum contents, it seems to me that this place is now just for trading with loose morals. At the same time, recently there is no longer any interest in threads/discussions about actual gameplay. There's very little that interests me, and very little that I contribute that interests anyone. This thread was helpful for me to determine whether there was a chance of things changing in the future, so thanks to Dadan for starting it.
That's a very nice challenge Invokeur, I just wonder how people are going to find it if they don't already know it
I would like to try something slightly different (if Kugi allows it in this thread) and ask for your help to collect locations of murals/mosaics/stained glass of Tyrian gods.
Reward for each one I don't know about is 15e.
They can be anywhere in any campaign, except pre-searing. Here is a quick list of ones I can think of:
- 5 gods in ascalon city
- 6 gods in consulate docks
- balthazar in dragon's gullet near the entrance
- dwayna in dragon's gullet at the western pool
- grenth in ascalon foothills northeast corner
- grenth in nolani at the bonus pedestal
- lyssa in eastern frontier on the western field
- balthazar in pockmark flats southeast corner
Also the most recent one I found, for which I'll put a bounty of 20e to the first person to reproduce the screenshot (hint: if you're here, then your friends you just saved are probably already trapped by the Charr, go and help them before your only way of escape is lost):
9 & 26 2a each
7 20e
No Legacy rules are broken so no action necessary.
Interested to see what people think.
Well, everybody went off topic immediately, even though Dadan asked not to
But I'd be interested if you or any other mod could expand a bit and answer the original question. Have you given any thought recently about what kind of board you want Legacy to be?
There are users who don't mind bots and there are users who do mind, so will you consider removing/adding any forum rules (you have changed rules before, it's possible) if there is a wish for it from users? Not taking action is also a statement, and Dadan's fears that Legacy will simply turn into a market for botted items may even come true. I can't really believe you are OK with that (extreme) scenario, because why then would you have created all the other subforums like q&a, farming, builds, etc.? I'm not criticising one side or the other, but just honestly interested in how the legacy team thinks about it
I 'm not Jesus, can't walk on the water
Wait, where is the npc in your screenshot? And the banner at the bridge?
q9 shortbow 15/-1hp 14-28 260g need?
q8 20% is quite rare but unfortunately there's not much interest. Such a bone staff with HCT18 Death would get about 100e, so this one less than half for sure.
Nice Kugiini! That's good for half the reward. The 2nd location in that map is still available for anyone.
I guess I'll post some new ones as well.
#4: difficulty 1/5. Reward 2e. Hint: This place makes me think of Riverwood in Skyrim, with the homeliness, anvil, waterwheel. Just like in Skyrim, the place in this screenshot is one of the first places you reach after an "escape" and before meeting the authorities.
#5: difficulty 3/5. Reward 10e. Two places in the same map. Hint: we all know where this is, the difficulty lies in reproducing the screenshots. No toolbox required, no SaO chain required.
60e bone staff
q9 str gothic 10e
30e zodiac
Added a few new items.
Update regarding the mods list: I am going to delete a large number of these mods soon. Specifically, all mods for bow, dagger, scythe, spear, shield, wand, focus, and inscriptions that do not have value 5, 10, or 15.
If you need any of these, please contact me before March 15th.
But how can one assess the GW aficionados from the botters, and are the auctions here not ruled by highest bidder, no matter what?
That's very difficult unfortunately. It was just a personal suggestion of mine, you don't have to follow it ofcourse.
Auctions here are ruled by the seller, nothing else. You can sell or not sell to whoever you want, not just the highest bidder (although that would be the most obvious choice).
If that really dropped during casual playing, that's some insane luck you got. I would strongly consider keeping it, even if you feel like you need armbraces right now. No amount of armbraces can buy you a personal reminder of that lucky moment.
If I would sell it, I would try to make sure it goes to someone who appreciates it, not just some botter with thousands of arms who just kinda fancies it at the moment.
Where did you farm it? Cheers.
Hello, pick any chest or foe you like:
like pleiki said gargoyles are popular, maybe try whirling outside nolani.
Fire staff 5a if Tyrian skin
Please don't spam me in game either
Ty
I went for a walk in the scar today and saw something strange: in the southwest corner, down in the unreachable basin with the broken teleporters, a chest spawned...
It must mean that a hidden group of scarabs is also there, I guess. Imagine this group gets triggered by a random dune lizard while vanquishing, and you can't reach it with a longbow.
3 ) Finally, how do I know what's valuable? I've seen people sell OS items that I personally think aren't very good
I agree with Pleikki, it's very complex and randomly counterintuitive. One of the things that does not matter at all for an item's price is how 'good' or useful it is. Good example are q7-8 max dmg martial weapons, they have no added usefulness compared to q9. But they are rare and also popular for some reason. Price is always determined by supply & demand, but in gw the demand is not based on usefulness.
OS shield/focus/wand with 2 perfect mods are the most rare, so those will be highest price (adjusted by demand). Then again, OS purple dual mod items are many times more rare than gold, but for some reason very few people like purple, so those will have lower price than golds in general. So yea, general advice is to keep all your OS dual mod perfect gold & purple shield/focus/wands. Post them in the price check section, don't sell in kamadan or to private offers if you get a lot of interest.
treats
Just to be clear, you bought it, right? I think that's not nearly as awesome as having your own drop, but still ok (as long as you paid a fair price)
Not on all elemental though.
Do you have an example of a martial weapon with the elemental damage in white? (except greens and the anniversary elementalist axe)