Posts by OS T

    If youre not botting you will hardly be able to compete in this economy.


    Im just glad that there is stuff that is hard to be botted. Like GoTT.

    yes,excactly.and that is one of the problems thats have been in gw for several years now,but its also needed or else nothing would have been for sale. Yet people clearly is botting,I'm not saying everyone. But you can see the amount of arms they are offering for anything rare in gw. They act like its nothing. Same is for those who buy for real life money. People shun it here on gwl,but its happening every day and everyone is just ignoring it

    In the beginning of gw economy wasnt like this,people bought stuff and sold them and did not hoard stuff, PUGS existed. Most were friendly. Its quite the opposite now,except friendly. Most people are friendly and helpful in gw.

    You sure you want to do this in a forum?

    Yet you're the one who started out in this direction, calling 99% of players "#@°&". :/

    and?

    I'm just stating how I experience some many people on gwl or people in game.

    how am I wrong for saying 99% of people exploit gw and are really greedy. This isnt something is new. I can honestly say I'm one of them on certain os items


    okay,maybee 99% was a little harsh,but majority IS. We all want the most out of what we sell, but many people just wants an exorbant amount of arms for many things

    I understand market dynamics in a game as well,but the problem here is that its not fluctuation. Every year the prices on OS q8 and q7 increases exponentially it seems. The prices are not going back down on such items. And because there are so many people buying OS q8 and q7 people can also ask what they want. But its also a side problem and that is people have quit the game some time ago and rares are on inactive accounts. People just wants to hoard q7 and q8 gold items for themselves. People almost not never selling a q8 weapon unless they know certain people will spend insane amounts of armbraces on it.

    Adaption - sure is needed in any virtual game. You can bott and make accounts and let them run days and days and get fiilthy rich that day. You can buy arms for real life money. You can accumulate wealth over time or powertrade. Its just the prices for any rare q7 and q8 is so high so if you want to buy expensive stuff you really are going broke, unless you have a os item buffer or just insanely rich from before.


    patience and persistance - I have been collecting myself for many years, prices are never going down, only up. So when a item I want surfaces and is listed for sale. It again, comes down to your wealth and people you know.

    I agree on the last point mostly. I have done pretty much everything in gw, pvp I cant get back into since guarded by bots so only people owning the bots can kick you. gvg is another thing. Social interaction died when Anet introduced 3 heroes, then came gw2, then later 6 heros. Now people prefer heroes before playing with human players. Everything in groups is speedclear and the use of pcons is nonstop. Over the years ive been in guilds, its mostly dead in chat or AC, not much conversation. There is only certain things left for me to do and accomplish.


    This is how I see things are now and in the last 10+ years

    as far as I see its several reasons why gw economy is going/has gone downhill.

    The game has been dead since gw2 came,even when I came back in 2015 it has changed so much, even then the prices were so insane high.
    Now the prices are just insane, people go around selling white q7 and q8 for from 250e - over 1000e. People are desperate to buying anything regarding q8 in any inherent mod like hex, 20 below 50.
    People only care about themselves, hoarding several versions of the same q8 items, doing stupid collections of every staff,hammer,wand,axe,sword,bows,daggers skin available
    Prices are so insane high to even buy a regular q8 15^50 weapon with a common skin, I have strongly considered stopping to continue to collect a few years now. and I mostly dont care much about gw anymore. Even when some interesting stuff comes out, powertraders wants an insane amount for it.
    Botters is a real problem, there will always be people who buy stuff from them, but without the botters the game would be even more dead and the economy would have been 20x worse than it is.

    And I would not care if I find a botted os item that I want, I would still buy it.

    99% of gwl is filled with toxic people that is leeching and exploiting anything and everything, people look to make a back anyhow they can. All this clean value bullshitt with 200,300,400 gv value. Then the sellers wants to exploit those very few buyers. So the result is that now everyone wants extra ectos/arms for a clean value os item.


    at this point I dont have any love left for gw, the community and the players greed has destroyed this over several years. I rarely log in anymore or want to log in. I very rarely even check out WTS items I want, even if my some miracle that there items I would want people buy it for themselves and offer me to buy it for an obscene amount or they want anything from 250a - 500a. This happened to me so many times over the years I really come to hate certain players in gw.

    sorry for being unclear,but I was talking about the pants/skirt.

    or are there 2 woven pants armor?

    i sold 2-3 prenerf/rare weapons at this player. But honestly, if i saw his collection back in a days and if i thought that he/she will custom some of them, i won't sell my previous items at him/her. I would much rather keep or sell my items to someone who wants to have a profit rather than someone who custom... Probably +95% of his collection was bought and not looted. Honestly, i really think that this player kill the beauty of this game in all sense of collection (contemplation, pleasure to trade, economy...). Its just a selfish move. This is just sad and shameless. I could have a certain admiration for this collection but, i have more digusting feelings to be honest. I know this is just a game but, for me, this player is just a custom criminal... We all know that guild wars is a special game for collectibles items/pets.

    you seriously think that people who only loot rare q8s in gw can call themselves collectors?

    People did custo os items way back when gw was in beta and in the pre nerf drop stage. for 98% rest of gw players who want to collect,getting q7 and q8 rare items is impossible.

    There arent any collectors in gw that HASNT bought a q8/q7 rare/super rare OS item,and if they tell you otherwise they are full of shitt.

    I mean you could get q9 collection as you prefer and loot them, there is some that have done that and building their own collection that way,but its very few people.

    And if you think that players goes against what you write when killing the beauty of the game as you so eloquently put it. ITS NOT a selfish move, or maybe it is. People do collect for themselves, as they should. Get it???

    You or anyone cant police if anyone is custoing stuff. And since you know collectibles is special, there is no wonder why people do customize weapons, right???


    “You okay man” Omg :D like foreal though man, this game old as hell man you can’t care that much about another mmo player’s collection

    thats right:)

    You try to acquire what you can at this time and age when gw is like 17years old. So people cant care, I mean they can admire the collection ofcourse.

    imagine if all the collectors did that, would you be happy to have 0 market to buy collectible os items besides that it takes away all the beauty of the items ? Probably not. I dont talk about custom 1 or 2 extremely sentimental rare weapons. I can understand. It's ok to custom the basic os Q9 weapons and all the common ones. I am not the only one to think that its just trash and disgusting as fuck to custom weapons like this. And i am pretty sure, more than 50% of the collectors feels the same. This section is not only the representation of all the existing collectors. From what I understand, this player is known in the community. Maybe I'm taking a risk saying that openly but I dont care, I'm not a friend with this player. I'm just expressing a really sincere feeling about ruining this game in term of beauty.

    You okay man?

    when people buy newly acquired OS items,be rare or super rare. They are the owners and they should do what they want. The collectors dont owe you or anyone to other gw players in hope they would resell it later. selling anything in this game is so profitable and when reselling prices goes up and up and custoing makes you the last owner.

    Why would anyone really care about the community when collecting for themselves. gw is going downhill and if they to have something that remembers them by and its getting really difficult to find anything. If I want to custo weapons I sure will do that and I certainly dont care what a random person thinks on a forum board, which you can throw back at me.

    I merely mentioned NF when it comes to cons. GW didnt loose player right after NF was released ofcourse,but close to gw2 release. I know very well why henchmen exists in gw.

    The argument of made use of henchmen for human players and they asked for the upgrade to heroes, that I dont know about. But again, since gw was thriving at that point there was no reason to have heroes in gw1 until later when the playerbase went down. I took a break from gw when merc heroes came to gw so I cant speak about that, but merch heroes were merely a cash grab so you can play with all your alts,its the same as heroes ofcourse.

    I know people have always cared for meta, its also why its always been nerfed after a little while, but most of the newest meta builds with Mesmers and UA build,sin,dervs but there havent been a in a long time since people use the most powerful team builds. So the OP current meta is so strong that most that have heroes dont need/want human players. I was in a guild prior a few years back and I asked if I could join a teamparty and I got refused since I was coming monking and the person said N/rt does a better job than healing. Thats how bad the current meta builds are, and that is what I'm aiming at

    I'm also merely pointing out that even henchmen and heroes eventually were a thing its still a reason why the game is like that it is today.The henchmen were always there as you say,but they were even more dumber than the AI in henchmen of today, the AI got updated later on henchies. So all that have played from the beginning know how bad henchmen were when you had to use them. Yes they do make sure so you can solo,but it was always limited in compared to human players. When the news of 3 heroes in your party I was very excited because I had certain people I did vanquishing with and we both brought 3 heroes each. The problem came when 7 heroes in your party became a reality in gw.

    You can call it a paradigm shift how you want, I still stand by what I say so, that is your view and I have mine.

    And solo play was a big thing in gw before,but it was mostly farming certain spots, there werent much solo play with henchies. I guess the exception is those players without guild. But heroes have just destroyed gw team with 8 human players.

    I don't think GW3 would be a bad idea if it were a modernized version of GW1 (but without asinine jumping puzzles. This is not a platformer genre. If you want platforming, go play Mario Bros). Sadly, I don't think the team today is capable of bringing that to fruition. A lot of people have mixed feelings about Nightfall, but I think GW1 really hit its stride in many areas with it.

    Mission design was probably the best there out of the three games, and making those areas explorable outside of the mission was a boon. The advent of heroes was a boon to those looking to get back to the classic days of RPGs when you could form a full party of characters that you set up the way you want - Merc heroes being even better as they were skinned as your own characters. I know a lot of people look down on heroes, but they made the game playable for a great many of us who preferred to solo content, or couldn't play during prime time hours. To take them away would be completely antithesis to the concept of why NPC helpers were created in MMOs in the first place. Without them, or putting limits on them would require any content to scale according to the group size to allow for solo play. This is the 21st Century, forced grouping is a concept that has gratefully gone by the wayside.

    First off, heroes were introduced only for the sole reason that gw1 was loosing players. It has nothing to do with back to the classic days of RPG. GW1 isnt a RPG. from the very start to the start of when gw2 was released no one had any problems with getting players to do stuff together, like vanqing,missions,elite areas, not stupid cons until NF was released either.

    Gw1 isnt made for solo play, and when gw was loosing players they introduced heroes, 3 heroes per person first and then 7 heroes which just destroyed pve in general. People only care for meta builds nowadays and they don't care to accept players because heroes are more reliable than human players and they want to only gw with the most OP heroes so they can breeze through gw1 without any resistance. This is the end result of heoes coming onto gw1, meta OP builds and con,lots and lots of cons/pcons

    Heroes were never a thing at the beginning of gw so its laughable that you point to a concept of why NPC helpers were created in MMO's.

    And lastly a designed mmo with defined roles so grouping has to be a thing to get stuff done is necessary, and I have never looked at gw1 grouping up is a forced thing. If you do feel that way,you should play something else than gw,go play gw2 instead or other casual noob friendly mmo's

    The thing is when you log in and not many are on like today and if you want it to be more like GW not GW2 then you will need heros and don't forget about PvP .There were lots of players in the first 3 years do do missions with but questing not really .

    yes.that is the state of gw as of today. But in GW golden days you had bunch of players, not heroes where most people run meta builds and dont accept anyone except their own heroes in their party. As I mentioned earlier,you can implement a few heroes later where the devs can see that the playerbase is decreasing. So up to that point there is no need of heroes, it was a cool concept when they restricted it to 3 heroes per person,but at that time there were still abundance of players.

    And PvP was fluorishing back in the golden days as well, even tho pvp players were toxic,but pvp usually is.

    People actually did quests back in the day and alot of missions. In my guild at that time, EVERYONE was doing missions,capping(before titles were a thing). I would say people did missions with human players upwards to gw2 was released,after that alot of players moved onto gw2.

    I would like for all the old classes to come back to as well as some of the GW2 like Chrono which was suppose to end up in GW as new chapter.@OST it would depend on if it was going to be coop instanced then you would need heros or hench.I would refer it that way unless you and an increase to the party size .

    I would like to see attribute points back not traits .The only thing missing in GW is an auction house but they could of done that through msql like the online store .

    I would say just over haul the old game add that and more out posts add new classes eg. Chron and Reverant .

    I would say the GW is still selling as I keep seeing some new vids on it .It is a cheap game to play .

    firstly, that would be too many professions with combining gw1 and gw2, that would be so much balancing to do.

    we didnt need heroes back in the day of gw, there were abundance of people everywhere,we had henchies which was a joke do anything with. Heroes are a abomination in gw, it killed pve with other players, and then came 7 heroes and made gw1 a shitt storm. Gw made for coop. If there was coop instances you would have to play with human players.

    I dont think many would care much for a auction house, if you really fancy go play wow or some other mmo who has in their.