heh - definitely more realistic than a q8 caster felly (since anything bigger 0 chance will be) but really actually... winning the state lottery 2times in a row seems more likely 
Posts by Red Fireball
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Curious about your comment Red, did you mean it can drop anywhere or it cannot in req8?
cannot. sry if unclear.
For example, my records show Fellblades dropping from chests in HM in Undercity, why would they not drop in an NM chest as q8?
that might be a reasonable approach of reasoning, but it does not seem to work that way. raven staff and fellblade both drop on locked chests in hm maguuma jungle, but never in nm. also in sf the first two chests neber drop a fellbldae, whilst the last one does - but that one never drops q8. the os fellblade does not drop q8.
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sorry, but q8 felly is out of the options to drop. anywhere
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statistically more like 10.000.000 runs... but it can happen
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does that mean insightful staffhead can't drop with a 5energy insc (a +5 +5 energy combo)? because now im not sure if i've actually ever seen that or not.
exactly! you also cannot drop one that has a hale head plus fortitude wrap or defensive head plus wrap of defense/shelter/warding.
i have observed that i don't ever find adept staff heads on os staves, which made me wonder if that weapon mod even existed
absolutely did not. they were added with nf and only drop in insc area. same for swift.
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so in order to go a little more in depth on how the bugged insc weapons occur:
maybe you can see a pattern in the following screens of the bugged staves that turned up on the forums:
remember: those are not filtered by a mod, instead it is just all the insc exclusive drops that were dropped without inscription and popped up here on pc (we did collect way more data from farms and own drops and others that claimed to have dropped them in insc area, where the skin however wouldn't prove that, so I did only include those bullet proof ones). It becomes VERY apparent that there is a pattern: they all have an insightful staff head. On the other hand not all staves that do drop with an insightful head are uninsc. so what do we make of that?
there is a duplicate removal routine somewhere in gw as it seems, which happens to mark insightful + energy in the same category as inscription that grant energy. so if the combination occurs - boom the latter mod gets discarded, which is... the inscription. Same was the case with slaying mods and dmg increasing inscriptions: both were in the category damage modifier and thus the latter mod got discarded... which was the inscription. so they fixed it by making the routine not detect those in the same category anymore, which is how the bugged insc martial were erased from the possible drops.
there are similar things to observe: an os shield can not have two mods in the same category - like two hp mods or two armor mods. and the one droppin dual at some point was damage reduction. again the routine did check for duplicate mobs and removed them, but somehow someone skipped the -x wS mod to add to that category - which is why ALL dualreduction shields have the -x wS as one of their two reduction mods. the bugfix is obvious from there. similarly an os foc never could drop with two hct mods. nor a foc. nor a staff. interestingly a staff can not even drop with two hct mods applied! but in that case the staff head was removed, so it is not a bugged one. it seems to have to do with the order in which mods appear defaulted on wepons. just for completion: they did obviously also group the inherent energy mod on a staff differently than the +energy from mods or inscs, so those do drop.
so with this said I tried to outline HOW the bugged insc area items were and are created, and from there challenge you to explain: what other mod combo out there could trigger a duplicate removal routine so that any martials could still get a insc removed leading to bugged insc area martials?
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bet you can fetch some ecto for the long sword due the clean value. maybe 20-50e
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Cute for the obby edge - yes it surfaced here recently, but it was ancient.
From the GuildWars community on Reddit: Check out my Bad luck :)Explore this post and more from the GuildWars communitywww.reddit.comNeutral_CH no, the deathbane bug leading to noninsc martial weapons was fixed here https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20081009 which was about a year after the introduction of the zchest.
also I repeat: STAVES do still drop bugged insc. just martials TO MY KNOWLEDGE do not.
either way a bugged zchest exclusive skin does not prove anything still dropping. maybe there is any skin that has been added after the mentioned bugfix and fits the criteria (insc area drop, no staff, drops in gold rarity), that, if existing bugged, could prove the point, but I'd not be aware of one.
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would love to see screens of recent drops - my status is based on observation and update notes. Some friends and I collected screens of the bugged weapons on here over the past years and all the recent drops that surfaced in the PC section were staves. and we collected about 30-50 - I'd have to count. so if anyone has a screen of one freshly dropping - please! can you check your screens PyroLobster ? (I'd have a q3 dwarf shield for you as reward in my inventory
)the problem in bits is that in order to prove anything you would need a screen with f9 and equip pack shown, no heroes in party, the chat log entry of the thing dropping with time stamp plus only a single weapon of that name in inventory plus /age showing. only then it'd be safe I think (idk if I might have missed a way to fake it)
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it is prenerf as in means of it being impossible to drop anymore
Why can't zchest drop one of these today? It drops Q9 Cry and on occasion a wep without an inscription?
the bug with the deathbane mod leading to martial items that should have had a insc slot ending without one has been fixed some years ago. today only staves still present this behaviour. so BDS can still drop without insc slot, but crysta not. this is my status
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ye the spiders should drop them, but those are lvl14
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it is prenerf as in means of it being impossible to drop anymore. but it isn't prenerf as in means it dropped from one of the keyless chests.
to differentiate a prenerf the gold value at times holds a clue, on q9 that does not help however. a general gold sword at q12 a max damage at a value below 144 would point it to be prenerf, at q13 even a value below 188 would point that out. on crystas however any value below 204g would point it out to be prenerf, since today it can only drop in gold rarity from chests with an unid range starting at 50g. for same reasons on q8 every crystalline would be prenerf. and also any damage below 15-21 would point it to be prenerf.
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machete is really rare - I think there is about 3mobs that can drop one as low as that one. but that does not mean it really has a value. I'd just put it out there, see if any low req lovers have a heart for it and guess you can get something in the two digit ecto range.
for a clockwork scythe check kama trade chat. https://kamadan.gwtoolbox.com/
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long story short - nope
all merch
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#2 1a (thanks for tag
trademeimfamous#4 1a
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hm nolani? troll cave outside droks? desert griffons? what rof are you and is your skill set also restricted to proph?
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the deso maul can fetch few arms (2-3), the shadow axe 10e maybe, same for the wayward, rest is pretty much merch I think
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San was just editing since I felt the 2000 came out as a PC. I wanted to make the point that no one can tell, but everyone will know 300a is lowballing.
and I feel like it could very well fetch even more than 2000. sure it ain't prenerf, but try farm one
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just before you fall for a trap dozens other returning players have with their dope items: the broad sword is a KILLER it will likely fetch 2000a+ which is about 100000ecto. Or maybe way beyond that. so don't think a pm with a 300a offer seems too good to wait any further - put it for auction, take your time and claim the profit yourself that else someone reselling will take. no one can really tell you its value, one like it hasn't sold in many MANY years, many people love the skin and many have a shitload of arms laying around.
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nothing to worry mate! we have the screen to remember it. RIP
PC is also merch on both
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I would take the bow. never seen a 11-20 before :O
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since it might have come out a wrong way: a mechanic sanctioning gold drops, dualmod drops or q8s might be imaginable, but also there - I didn't find any data pointing that way. you get lucky sometimes, you get unlucky sometimes. and you might have a couple good lucks or bad ones in a row.
but I doubt there is much to such correlations being imemented due to the data I have seen. which doesn't mean there are none.
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there is no mechanic that would sanction popular items over time. that is just your mind interpreting. how would the gw developer know which items you were after? the problem is that in the beginning it is all new, the routes still take your attention, you are excited for the drops, but after 10s or hundreds of hours the routes run on autopilot, you know all the possible chest spawns and the only thing you pay attention to is the drops - specifically the ones you are after. and since those usually are a small fraction of all the possible drops, the mind is getting more and more confirmation for the "those things really do not drop" than for the opposite. I did track the tower shield drops on nolani - since those are the ones I am after - as well as the q8 foci and shields, as well as chest spawn locations and other things alike. certainly my sample is very limited, but there is no correlation whatsoever to be found. so I would rather advise not to do anything else in between just for the hopes of better chances at a specific place, since that will just delay you getting them further. if you have various things you like to pursue indeed alternating might be the best way - not for the resulting drops, but rather in order to keep things interesting for the mind
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ah I wasn't talking about attack chain, but about the inherent chance to dual strike with high dagger mastery. this way you do get increased attack speed effectively. and as ias you could bring drunken master? but yes... you should use alc for that one. I do however very much like your axe version as well - makes great use of the available multi hit skills there
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I guess "fun build" is very subjective
but here a few approaches that I had in mind:
Psychic instability hammer build
Illusory weaponry dagger build
a more "12345" build would be https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:Me/R_Simple_Energy_Surge
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I can backup that PC. forbidden staff best put on auction. worth quite some. the rest is very mediocre and not worth the effort to try and sell them
