• Been long overdue that the "Truth about Prenerf" thread was revamped, so here it is. Have broken this down into 4 sections, see Weapons / Shield & Focus / Greens

    Everything here is subject to change and additions. If you can see a mistake or notice something is missing please say so and it shall be changed. The goal here is to use community collective knowledge to get as close to the truth as possible.

    An item is considered Pre-Nerf if it cannot drop anymore. In other words, the possibility of the game generating these stats or items has been physically removed by the coders at Anet, mainly 2005/2006 around the release of Factions. The only way to acquire Pre-Nerf items is through trading with other players.

    Runes:

    minus 50hp Major runes, all versions

    Superior runes with Minor rune icon

    Superior runes with Blue colour

    Superior or Major runes which remain unsalvaged on a Blue and Purple armor/garb item

    Major runes with wrong icon / blue colour (such as absorption, major vigor and recovery, clarity, purity and restoration)

    Miscellaneous:

    Any Mixed dyes

    Dye remover

    Vial of Dye with 25 gold value [currently 1g]

    Bolt of silk with 30 gold value [currently 15g] (Could be similar for other materials)

    Jade Wind Orbs

    Naga Fangs

    Zaishen Medallions

    Brick of Mud

    Clay Bricks

    Olias's resignation letter

    Tattered Girls cape

    Winter Gifts

    White Staff Wrapping

    Customized Miniatures

    Festival hats that are Rune/insignia-able


    If anybody has screenshots of any of these items please post.

  • I'd like to add also superiour runes on purple armor pieces (not only blue pieces), also major runes with wrong icon / blue color such as absorption, major vigor and recovery, clarity, purity and restoration


    Also depending how you put it, Broken toy, model toy and Whimsical Essence could be considered prenerf? Since new gray giant codes haven't been given in ages

    Late edit@ Tattered Girls cape also

    Edited once, last by Pleikki (September 30, 2021 at 9:53 PM).

  • Also depending how you put it, Broken toy, model toy and Whimsical Essence could be considered prenerf? Since new gray giant codes haven't been given in ages

    I'd be hesitant to add this as somebody with an existing unused code could still add a new one to the game couldn't they? Good its been mentioned but I don't think it meets the stated definition of "Prenerf". Anybody else got an opinion on this?

    Tattered Girls cape - Is this a quest item? First I've heard of it.

  • Like i said Here :


    LEFT : winter gift from 2005 event, not stackable

    RIGHT : winter gift from 2006 to 2010 events, stackable

    Same name, same skin, not the same item's id.

    both are prenerf.

    (btw : Top -> Jade Wind Orbs)

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    “Prenerf / OS items don’t disappear — they move to better hands.”

    Edited once, last by calincalin (January 9, 2026 at 9:52 PM).

  • making a new post for runes :

    • Purple rune for sin and rit -50hp


    These runes were nerfed in early June 2006. Since Factions was released on April 26, 2006, this means they were only available for 35 days.

    • blue major runes (only prof)


    LEFT : a blue one

    RIGHT : a purple one

    BOTTOM : blue vigor


    Major and Superior runes originally did not use the modern rarity colors.

    This changed with the September 7, 2005 update, which introduced rarity-based coloring for runes (purple for Major, gold for Superior). Since Guild Wars Prophecies launched on April 28, 2005, this means the original rune system existed for 132 days before this update.