So I have waited the required 24 hours since account creation, and have 5 posts, yet I still can't post to the "selling" tab in the xunlai market. Anyone know why?
Why I still can't post to selling
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should work now, think it takes a few minutes after 5th post
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Making posts is cool, but you could've answered this by reading some posts too. It says in the post about the limits that there is a lag after the 5th post of about 10 minutes.
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Making posts is cool, but you could've answered this by reading some posts too. It says in the post about the limits that there is a lag after the 5th post of about 10 minutes.
Ya, but as a fellow new gw legacy user, navigating this site is a bit confusing at first, and finding the exact post to explain this was a bit challenging for me to find as well. So I don't blame them for posting. Plus, what's the issue with posting a question on a forum, especially if its a new user? Shouldn't we be encouraging people to post and ask questions and be a part of the community
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Making posts is cool, but you could've answered this by reading some posts too. It says in the post about the limits that there is a lag after the 5th post of about 10 minutes.
Ya, but as a fellow new gw legacy user, navigating this site is a bit confusing at first, and finding the exact post to explain this was a bit challenging for me to find as well. So I don't blame them for posting. Plus, what's the issue with posting a question on a forum, especially if its a new user? Shouldn't we be encouraging people to post and ask questions and be a part of the community
?I'm sorry that finding Legacy News right below Questions and Answers is hard to do.
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Ya, but as a fellow new gw legacy user, navigating this site is a bit confusing at first, and finding the exact post to explain this was a bit challenging for me to find as well. So I don't blame them for posting. Plus, what's the issue with posting a question on a forum, especially if its a new user? Shouldn't we be encouraging people to post and ask questions and be a part of the community
?I'm sorry that finding Legacy News right below Questions and Answers is hard to do.
I did see that post, I also responded on there. I still couldn't post on selling until several days after my 5th post (not 10 minutes) later but thank you for pointing that out.
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Same issue for me. Account is old enough and 30 min since 5th post.
Do some posts not count? -
That last post did it. So I'm guessing some types of posts done count :shrug:
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Well, I did find that post easily and read it. Tbh, it’s still a little bit confusing, but that’s just because I haven’t been to any forum for like 20 years, haha.
I guess it takes some time to getting used to it, that‘s all.
(And yes, I’m just posting for the count, lol) -
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Making posts is cool, but you could've answered this by reading some posts too. It says in the post about the limits that there is a lag after the 5th post of about 10 minutes.
Ya, but as a fellow new gw legacy user, navigating this site is a bit confusing at first, and finding the exact post to explain this was a bit challenging for me to find as well. So I don't blame them for posting. Plus, what's the issue with posting a question on a forum, especially if its a new user? Shouldn't we be encouraging people to post and ask questions and be a part of the community
?It's also mentioned in the Xunlai Marketplace Rules which we assume you have read before you start posting here; https://guildwarslegacy.com/forum/xunlai-marketplace-rules/.
This is still in a testing phase, so if this is a permanent addition, I might add more noticeable warnings https://guildwarslegacy.com/forum/xunlai-marketplace-rules/I'm sorry that finding Legacy News right below Questions and Answers is hard to do.
I did see that post, I also responded on there. I still couldn't post on selling until several days after my 5th post (not 10 minutes) later but thank you for pointing that out.
The full requirements are:
- You need to have at least 5 posts.
- Your account needs to have a verified e-mail (clicked activation link).
- Your account needs to be at least 24 hours old.
The 10 minute wait is due to how the automatic assignment to the right user group works: it is a cronjob that runs every 10 minutes, and usually it finishes quite quickly. Because of that, the waiting time is a technical thing and lowering that waiting time doesn't really make sense to me from a technical standpoint (the cronjob does use resources).
That last post did it. So I'm guessing some types of posts done count :shrug:
There is a small exception, but most posts should count.
Well, I did find that post easily and read it. Tbh, it’s still a little bit confusing, but that’s just because I haven’t been to any forum for like 20 years, haha.
I guess it takes some time to getting used to it, that‘s all.
(And yes, I’m just posting for the count, lol)I'm always open for suggestions to make it easier to find
- and nothing wrong with posting for the count, as long as the message is a bit more than just a bid, for example.I've also seen a raise in spam conversations, so I'm also going to limit starting conversations to users that have a high enough post count.
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Hey, thank you for the answer/ your input. Really appreciated.
As for the rules: I didn't have any problems finding them, nor was there a problem with the understanding. Everything is perfectly clear and concise. Also, I do understand the need for spam protection measures requirements like post count, account age, verification. With a great influx of players and all, well, that's just a given.
We do the same over on the Presearing Discord and it's just better that way. But when I compare both "auction-systems", I do notice some differences I don't really understand tbh. So here are some observations or suggestions, if you will:
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Closing of posts: What I absolutely do find confusing on gwlegacy is the way auctions/sales are done. The threads are absolutely overcrowded, unreadable, and a headache to understand. People bid on old threads that have been edited 100ed of times. Changed titles, pictures, everything. You gotta click through 10s of pages to find the actual, current auction and the actual current offer. And even then: It's not 100% sure if you find the right price/current offer at all. Some people edit their threads to reflect current offers, some don't. So people just bid whatever they feel like, even though it's not the correct amount/lower than the actual current offer.
I've heard the problem lies within the system of closing posts. User need to mark their posts as closed which mods have to close for them afterwards. More often than not mods don't close post right away (which is understandable; life happens). So old, closed posts get lost, never closed, which in turn prevents users from creating new posts due to established rules. Bumping old, closed posts is tedious and no guarentee it will get seen and closed by mods. Bumping them too often will get u penalized. Therefore users just resort to recycling year old threads to fulfill their needs. I think this could be done better. Either let users close their posts on their own or relax the 1-post-policy a little bit. For comparison: on discord users are allowed to create three auctions max, as many sell-threads, as they need; and they are able to close their own posts at their own discretion - this leads to a really tidy and clear forum.
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Answering questions that are not bumps
As per the rules, every post in your own thread in less than 24h is considered a bump and will be penalized. I understand the rule. It's so people don't use excuses to bump their threads mercilessly. It would be unfair for everyone who is following the rules. Therefore this rule is in place. But this policy leads to a problems. E.g. a fellow gamer got a warning for answering a simple question in one of their threads. Maybe the answer to that question is of interest for all people. But since you can't post on your own thread within the 24h time window because its considered a bump, he needs to answer via PM. This just feels wrong and scares people away from being more open.
I think the rule could be relaxed a little bit. And just food for thought: If someone asked a question, isn't the thread bumped anyway? And if the question comes from a alt account to circumvent the 24h window; wouldn't the post be bumped anyway?
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Structure of auctions
On Presearing the auctions follow simple rules. You gotta have a starting bid, you could have reserve bids, you could have buy-outs. End times are important. Everything is at the sellers discretion, but posts need to at least contain S/B's. On legacy people just post a single picture and you know nothing about the intent: Is it for sale? Does he want charr carvings or arms? When does the auction end? Does it end anyway? Together with 1) it just confused the heck out of me and I've already considered creating excel spreadsheets just to understand a single auction.
I hope this can be helpful as it's the insight of a new user on the forum. I don't mean to criticize - this forum and the work y'all been doing is greatly appreciated.
Cheers
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Closing of posts: What I absolutely do find confusing on gwlegacy is the way auctions/sales are done. The threads are absolutely overcrowded, unreadable, and a headache to understand. People bid on old threads that have been edited 100ed of times. Changed titles, pictures, everything. You gotta click through 10s of pages to find the actual, current auction and the actual current offer. And even then: It's not 100% sure if you find the right price/current offer at all. Some people edit their threads to reflect current offers, some don't. So people just bid whatever they feel like, even though it's not the correct amount/lower than the actual current offer.
I've heard the problem lies within the system of closing posts. User need to mark their posts as closed which mods have to close for them afterwards. More often than not mods don't close post right away (which is understandable; life happens). So old, closed posts get lost, never closed, which in turn prevents users from creating new posts due to established rules. Bumping old, closed posts is tedious and no guarentee it will get seen and closed by mods. Bumping them too often will get u penalized. Therefore users just resort to recycling year old threads to fulfill their needs. I think this could be done better. Either let users close their posts on their own or relax the 1-post-policy a little bit. For comparison: on discord users are allowed to create three auctions max, as many sell-threads, as they need; and they are able to close their own posts at their own discretion - this leads to a really tidy and clear forum.
I do agree with this - my goal is to let people close their own posts. But this is a rule we inherited from the Guru-days
There is some modification needed on the forum side to make this possible. One of those things I want to do when I have the timeAnswering questions that are not bumps
As per the rules, every post in your own thread in less than 24h is considered a bump and will be penalized. I understand the rule. It's so people don't use excuses to bump their threads mercilessly. It would be unfair for everyone who is following the rules. Therefore this rule is in place. But this policy leads to a problems. E.g. a fellow gamer got a warning for answering a simple question in one of their threads. Maybe the answer to that question is of interest for all people. But since you can't post on your own thread within the 24h time window because its considered a bump, he needs to answer via PM. This just feels wrong and scares people away from being more open.
I think the rule could be relaxed a little bit. And just food for thought: If someone asked a question, isn't the thread bumped anyway? And if the question comes from a alt account to circumvent the 24h window; wouldn't the post be bumped anyway?
Another Guru-rule we inherited... there are a few ways I want to improve upon this, for example allowing as many posts in a thread by the post owner as they want, but those posts would not reset the location on the board unless it has been 24 hours since the last post. But yeah, this another one of those rules that I'm not a big fan of.
Structure of auctions
On Presearing the auctions follow simple rules. You gotta have a starting bid, you could have reserve bids, you could have buy-outs. End times are important. Everything is at the sellers discretion, but posts need to at least contain S/B's. On legacy people just post a single picture and you know nothing about the intent: Is it for sale? Does he want charr carvings or arms? When does the auction end? Does it end anyway? Together with 1) it just confused the heck out of me and I've already considered creating excel spreadsheets just to understand a single auction.
You have a great point here. I certainly think that there is room to improve on this.
