• Do you wonder what the game's currently dropping maximum and minimum possible damage, energy, armor, etc. for each requirement level are? We do, too! Let's keep notes!

    Please post pictures so I can add the numbers into the table and the community has a way to verify it this way :)


    req012345678910111213
    Axe max6-126-126-146-177-196-22 7-216-24 7-216-25 7-216-27 7-216-28 7-216-286-286-286-28
    Axe min2-55-105-105-105-105-105-115-135-155-23 6-175-22 6-195-225-256-27
    Bow max9-139-1410-1611-1812-2013-2214-2414-2514-2715-2815-2815-2815-2815-28
    Bow min4-68-128-118-128-128-118-129-1410-1611-1812-2112-2313-2514-27
    Dagger max4-84-85-95-116-126-137-147-157-167-177-177-177-177-17
    Dagger min1-33-73-73-73-74-74-74-84-95-105-126-136-157-16
    Focus max66789101111121212121212
    Focus min366666678910111212
    Hammer max11-1511-1612-1914-2215-2416-2817-3018-3218-3419-3519-3519-3519-3519-35
    Hammer min4-69-139-149-149-139-139-1411-1612-1913-2215-2516-2816-3118-34
    Scythe max8-178-179-2110-2410-2710-3210-359-37 10-369-40 10-359-41 10-359-41 10-349-419-419-41
    Scythe min3-67-157-147-147-147-157-158-198-218-268-31 9-308-328-379-40
    Shield max89101112131415161616161616
    Shield min488888910111213141516
    Spear max8-128-1310-1511-1711-1912-2113-2313-2514-2614-2714-2714-2714-2714-27
    Spear min3-57-117-117-118-127-107-118-139-1510-1711-1912-2312-2414-27
    Staff max12/6/7-11, 14/6/7-11, -/-/-----12/6/7-11, 14/7/7-11, -/-/-----13/6/8-13, 15/7/8-13, -/-/-----14/7/9-14, 15/8/9-14, 14/7/8-1314/8/9-16, 17/8/9-16, 15/8/10-1615/8/10-17, 17/9/10-18, 16/8/10-1816/9/10-19, 18/10/11-19, 17/9/10-1916/9/11-20, 19/10/11-20, 17/9/11-2017/10/11-21, 20/10/11-21, 18/10/11-2118/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22, 20/10/11-2217/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22, 20/10/11-2218/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22, 20/10/11/2218/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22--/--/-----, 20/10/11-22, 20/10/11-22
    Staff min10/3/4-6, 11/5/5-8, -/-/-----12/6/6-10, 11/5/6-10, -/-/-----12/6/7-10, 11/5/6-10, -/-/-----12/6/6-10, 11/5/7-10, 14/7/8-1312/6/6-10, 11/5/6-10, 15/7/8-1312/6/6-10, 11/5/6-10, 15/7/8-1312/6/7-10, 11/5/7-10, 14/7/8-1313/6/7-12, 12/6/7-11, 15/7/8-1314/7/8-13, 12/6/8-13, 15/7/8-1314/8/8-14, 13/7/9-15, 15/8/9-1515/8/9-16, 14/8/9-16, 16/9/9-1616/9/10-18, 15/8/10-18, 17/9/10-1817/10/10-20, 16/9/10-19, 18/10/10-19--/--/-----, 17/10/11-22, 19/0/11-22
    Sword max8-108-119-1311-1412-1613-1814-1914-2015-2215-2215-2215-2215-2215-22
    Sword min3-47-97-97-97-97-97-98-119-1310-1411-1612-1814-2015-22
    Wand max7-117-118-139-1410-1610-1811-1911-2011-2111-2211-2211-2211-2211-22
    Wand min4-66-106-106-106-106-107-107-118-138-149-169-1810-2011-21

    q3 - q13 still drops in gold
    q0 - q13 still drops in purple
    q0 - q12 still drops in blue and white
    min DMG for a purple q0 is higher than for a blue/white q0

    min DMG for a gold q3 is higher than for a purple q3

    Notes:

    • This is a work in progress showing the max and min stats we've found so far for drops by requirement. If you find a better version, post us a screenshot and tell us when and where it dropped!
    • Please be detailed when posting a new record here! We need the stats (of course) and the roughest time of it dropping (before or after the big nerf around realease of nightfall?) Ideally you have a screen of the item while laying fresh on the floor still assigned to your character.
    • Even junky white, blue and purple drops may show us info on the actual minimums and maximums in the game's programming, so keep an eye on those and feel free to post shots.
    • Pay attention to both the min and max damage listed, as there may be multiple records for any given req. (For example, 6-22 and 7-21 for the q5 axe.) Staves are a special case, as they have three built-in stats: HSR, energy and damage. Even if your staff has only one stat that breaks a current record, please post it.
    • We will list the best and worst stat(s) we find for each req level. If you get an item drop with the same stats as are already pictured here be happy and a) keep them as a fun reminder or b) merch them instantly as you hit the low part of the record or c) sell to some crazy UW/DoA/whatever farmer, who will pay you thousands for it ;)
    • For items which still drop today, there is no difference between inscribable and inherent sources when it comes to the range of stats for any given requirement level.
    • Thanks a lot to Luny for starting and taking care of this thread over the first 1.5 years!

    Thanks to everyone who helps out!


    If you notice mistakes or have suggestions for improvements, please feel free to let me know!

    Personal ToDo:

    Make clear we look for post nerf

    list prenerf maxes properly

    Historical display of staves stats table
    req012345678910111213
    w/b HSR max12/6/7-1112/6/7-1113/6/8-1314/7/9-1414/8/9-1615/8/10-1716/9/10-1916/9/11-2017/10/11-2118/10/11-2117/10/11-2218/10/11-2218/10/11-21-
    w/b HSR min10/3/4-612/6/6-1012/6/7-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/7-1013/7/7-1214/7/8-1314/8/8-1415/8/9-1616/9/10-1817/10/10-20-
    w/b Ene max12/6/7-1112/6/7-1113/6/8-1314/7/9-1414/8/9-1615/8/10-1716/9/10-1916/9/11-2017/10/11-2118/10/11-2117/10/11-2218/10/11-2217/10/11-22-
    w/b Ene min10/3/4-612/6/6-1012/6/7-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/7-1013/6/8-1214/7/8-1314/8/8-1415/8/9-1616/9/10-1817/10/10-20-
    w/b DMG max12/6/7-1112/6/7-1113/6/8-1314/7/9-1414/8/9-1615/8/10-1716/9/10-1916/9/11-2017/10/11-2117/10/11-2217/10/11-2218/10/11-2217/10/11-22-
    w/b DMG min10/3/4-612/6/6-1012/6/7-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/6-1012/6/7-1013/7/7-1214/7/8-1314/8/8-1415/8/9-1616/9/10-1817/10/10-20-
    req012345678910111213
    purp HSR max14/6/7-1114/6/7-1015/7/8-1315/7/9-1417/8/9-1517/8/10-1718/10/10-1819/9/10-1920/10/11-2120/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-22
    purp HSR min11/5/5-811/5/7-1111/5/6-1011/5/7-1011/5/6-1011/5/6-1011/5/7-1112/6/7-1113/6/9-1513/8/9-1614/8/10-1815/10/11-2116/9/10-1917/10/11-22
    gold HSR max--- 18/10/11-2120/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-22
    hold HSR min---
    p/g ENE max14/6/7-1113/7/6-1015/7/8-1314/8/8-1316/8/9-1616/9/9-1518/10/10-1818/10/11-2020/10/11-2120/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-22
    p/g ENE min11/5/5-812/5/7-1011/5/6-1011/5/7-1011/5/6-1011/5/6-1011/5/7-1112/6/7-1113/6/9-1513/7/9-1616/8/9-1616/8/10-1916/9/10-1917/10/11-22
    p/g DMG max14/6/7-1111/5/7-1115/7/8-1315/7/9-1416/8/9-1616/8/10-1818/9/11-1918/10/11-2020/10/11-2120/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-2220/10/11-22
    p/g DMG min11/5/5-812/5/7-1011/5/6-1011/5/7-1011/5/6-1011/5/6-1012/6/7-1012/6/7-1115/7/8-1315/8/9-1516/8/9-1616/9/10-1816/9/10-1919/10/11-21

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    Edited 94 times, last by Red Fireball: updated min spear q9 (February 10, 2024 at 1:17 PM).


  • I believe this takes the prize for lowest-damage axe -
    YlTSjvY.png

    It dropped in Presearing, from either a level three Bandit Blood Sworn or the bandit called Alain, who is also level three.

    Dammit.. this is mind blowing... wish you'd have left it unid, but too late. It dropping from your sources (bandits/alain) seems unlikely yet possible. Is it possible it came from a hidden stash or an innocent aloe seed along the way? I did do 2000kills killing all kinds of lvl 0-3 mobs, but nothing so far (but I only had a hand full of axes drop and just one of them had a value of 1g while unid. If you still have the axe I'll buy it for 5k (pre) if anyone has one in those stats unid/white I'll pay 1bd. And help me find out where to drop them!
    Thanks a lot for the contribution - glad there's still ppl who care!

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  • Dammit.. this is mind blowing... wish you'd have left it unid, but too late. It dropping from your sources (bandits/alain) seems unlikely yet possible. Is it possible it came from a hidden stash or an innocent aloe seed along the way? I did do 2000kills killing all kinds of lvl 0-3 mobs, but nothing so far (but I only had a hand full of axes drop and just one of them had a value of 1g while unid. If you still have the axe I'll buy it for 5k (pre) if anyone has one in those stats unid/white I'll pay 1bd. And help me find out where to drop them!
    Thanks a lot for the contribution - glad there's still ppl who care!

    It definitely dropped from bandits/alain. There's no chance it came from anywhere else. If I come across another, I'll make sure to leave it unid.

    Thanks for the offer to buy it, but seeing as it's potentially quite rare, I'd like to keep it for now. I'm happy to show it to you in trade, though, if you'd like. My IGN for presearing is I Shall Defend.

    IGN: I Shall Defend

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  • Red did you ever find out if Req8 can drop in HM from appropriate level mobs? I have been farming for (Many years) some mobs in HM but I thought for once that I would keep a lot of unid items for you to check out merch value and see if its possible. Ive done like 10k+ runs in the years I've played and still havent had anything, but maybe you could provide some insight to if its even possible :)

    TzO9BaZ.jpg

    You know what I am trying to farm of course :D

  • q8 is absolutely possible where you farm. 32-54g unid is the range of lvl 20 mobs and it yields q8s at 32-35g value. Max dmg sword begins at 35g at least maybe 34, max foc starts below 32g already and shields at 33. I am sure you have gotten some q8 over the years and some max dmg sword at 35g, just not both at same. The spot you are farming at is definitely suitable to farm the q8s. Alm that matters is mob lvl. NM or HM will just have an influence on the rare items drop rate as noted in some update notes from anet. I will soon put up an entire research thread that covers everything related to drops - I just didn't find the time so far. Would you mind sending me the items stats in your screen - the ranges are extremely valueable data for my research!

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  • Wow this opens all new doors, and impacts my low level q0 bow 9-13 collection lol. Typically the DMG of q1 is the same as q0 so will be curious if a 9-14 DMG q0 pops up some day.

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  • even at 2g - damn. Axes are weird sometimes - like scythes

    the problem is probably connected to the fact why the happen in 7-xx dmg (10-xx respectively) whilst max dmg is 1 lower...

    Thanks for checking the value!

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  • Kewl thanks for the input :) (thanks for finally dropping 6q2 foc - I gave up on it :D - it was obvious it´d happen, yet no one posted one)

    Here´s my latest additions - will merge them in table in next minutes as well :)

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  • q8 is absolutely possible where you farm. 32-54g unid is the range of lvl 20 mobs and it yields q8s at 32-35g value. Max dmg sword begins at 35g at least maybe 34, max foc starts below 32g already and shields at 33. I am sure you have gotten some q8 over the years and some max dmg sword at 35g, just not both at same. The spot you are farming at is definitely suitable to farm the q8s. Alm that matters is mob lvl. NM or HM will just have an influence on the rare items drop rate as noted in some update notes from anet. I will soon put up an entire research thread that covers everything related to drops - I just didn't find the time so far. Would you mind sending me the items stats in your screen - the ranges are extremely valueable data for my research!

    Prepare to have your mind blown Red:

    kd2fFNO.jpg

    Hope this provides some valuable research for you, since Ikki messaged me about getting Unid value before I id'd it since I was too excited to think about doing that xD

    Notes:

    1: Dropped from level 20 Stone Summit mobs in EoTN.

    2: Normal Mode

    3: Have had great luck getting req8 stuff from them lol.

    I am not sure if the fact it is inscr/from EoTN matters to the value of it, but hopefully it helps you out!

  • finally! Thanks so much for this first representative!

    Someone give kairi and pleikki a medal!

    And GZ on the insc short sword :O

    Was it the fistfight thingie? Where else are stone summits?

    But damn... at 33 g already... that is insane! I'd have expected 34-35g as you quoted me... that means that they might be more common than I thought... but ye maybe not :D I didn't see a lot dropping ;) will merge it into my statistics asap and see what the maths say about the outcome :P

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  • You're gonna love this one - Dropped in Pre-Searing (highest value for an unid purple in pre is supposed to be 16g):

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    I knew it! Thanks so much for this one C:

    That's how 10-17 and 16HSR are possible drops! I'll look into my table later on and see what else it tells... - Just for sake of completeness: from boss?!

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  • yup it indeed seems as if few items from collectors were never changed with the nerf. They do not count for the research but might also be worth mentioning. I'd add a category in op called "out of range items from collectors and quests" and keep track of those there - always fun to see such :) thanks for the input - it shows there's at least someone else interested - so legitimates a list!

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  • New Min DMG Q1 Hammer

    Q1_Min_dmg_Hammer.jpg

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