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“Here’s a new low” is what you meant I think. Imagine using your phone to make a photo of your screen in 2025 🙃
At least you wouldn't see the dust on the screen. Now we know that Red Fireball isn't obsessed with tidiness 
(and that he's probably a male human).
in certain circles I am infamous for these. I have a reputation to live up to!
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new min q7 staff / can probably assume min is 14/7/8-13 ttill q8 imo Red Fireball
edit : "confirming a predicted min value: 1 point"
1 point for me ! 
edit : staff was droped on mandragore imp lvl 12 Red Fireball
wanted to present here an absolute gem of trash !
ready ?
min armor for req
min bonus health
min bonus armor
min gold clean value
what a traishzure !
Mr. Clean(-Value) is this clean approved ? 
finally part of Qool Q Qlub [QQQ]
so focus shield always drop max ?
seeing recent drop from I Love Klad Strife wand dont always drop max q3
i forgot what dmg is the one of PyroLobster o ?
i think could make sense but just for q3 with gold because am sure right now dmg min is from a blue purp reference
nah what we'd need would be a min dmg gold rarity and a min dmg prp rarity per weapon type. as you see it on staff for example: min damage is the same for the first 5-6 reqs aka q3-8 in gold or q1-6 in prp. it is the same effect as for min damages with req: also the min damage is the same for q1-6. it is because there is a min value at which each can happen, which leads to the same min damage and a spread of 6 reqs due to the randomization. so for all these reqs the min dmg is identical.
gold rarity is capped lvl12+ which drops min value 12g
purple rarity is lvl7+ which translates to 5g min
item with req are capped 9g+ in b/w and 6g+ in p. purple items however do behave different in reference to gv, which actually leads to same min stats for a q2 in p and b/w actually. this means the min damage for q1-6 will be the same for w/b/p. consequently the min damage for purple q0 items however does differ from that for b/w.
so if we track min damages for each rarity we know where to apply them: purple -> q0, req -> q1-6, gold -> q3-8. since the table is ordered by req already, we do not need to track the second category, but much rather it shall be a backcheck as to how good our data already is 
same applies to gold min q3-8, which we only track in staves however...
seeing recent drop from I Love Klad Strife wand dont always drop max q3
i forgot what dmg is the one of PyroLobster o ?
I will try to think of a clean way to fit in the min damages by rarity as we have spoken, until then:
recent drop verbally confirmed - since I was expecting it I will believe. but I'll leave the points open for the investigatorix challenge, so if anyone can screen a drop still on the ground or unidentified...
is there a thread for ranges of HCT mods on staffs? from my observations theyre just dependent on rarity not req, so wouldnt quite fit in here but it is still somewhat related and relevant imo. actually this goes for ranges of damage mods as well
edit: i found that Praise's wiki page has a list of mod ranges
yah... there is a list somewhere and I can tell almost all of them - but definitely not this thread. could do one because would be general interest, but idk when
a good list in pre discord, which only covers prp ranges, but all below is blue, all above gold, so it should be relatively clear. https://discord.com/channels/67874…982679167139870
but yeah there is some interesting things happening. blue range is 0-50%, purple 50-80% and gold 85-100% along the range iirc.
New spear max?
Unid 2-5 Axe (dropped in presearing -> Diseased Devourer (lvl 0) - nothing new but I thought you might like it 
this one is higher dmg than current listed max
I made a visual
That's a new gold q8 staff min?
15% -> 14%
Picked this up today as well ~ Req 4 14/7/8-13
And another one
New min dmg range for gold q3 staff. From Maz chest loot in pre-searing dungeon.
New min dmg range for gold q3 staff. From Maz chest loot in pre-searing dungeon.
I do see itis technically a new min... but all weapon types will have a new min stat for our tables in gold rarity from that chest since it does work fundamentally different than reegular drops. question is - do we add them in the table? generally we do not even list min dmg for rarity in the table -should we?
Seperate table incase its different imo
New min dmg range for gold q3 staff. From Maz chest loot in pre-searing dungeon.
I do see itis technically a new min... but all weapon types will have a new min stat for our tables in gold rarity from that chest since it does work fundamentally different than reegular drops. question is - do we add them in the table? generally we do not even list min dmg for rarity in the table -should we?
If adding FT items separately to the list, maybe add an * with a footnote for pre dungeon... Would mean increasing the size of the table and it's pretty cluttered as is...
Would mean increasing the size of the table and it's pretty cluttered as is...
it is not cluttered, Red Fireball has put a lot of work into it and it's very pretty
Would mean increasing the size of the table and it's pretty cluttered as is...
it is not cluttered, Red Fireball has put a lot of work into it and it's very pretty
Haha... I definitely agree it's great work and effort since this is the page I spend most of time looking at However, adding pre-searing staves into the mix will add to the confusion so that's still up for debate
Is maz chest difdferent min?
wow. Insane that they change it
this leads to gold items at 10g unid, which is higher than the 12g unid for regular item drops.
wot
My collection is getting worried every time this thread updates. 
I swear red has phd in gold value and min maxing ! 😛 Ty for infos
