• yes. there is a range for everything. like a max blue q2 sword can drop from lvl 8-15. a max q5 shield can drop on lvl 12-16. and so on. the ranges are roundabout constant in size for a given rarity of items - only the level cutoffs for the rarities change something for that (a q3 gold cannot drop anywhere but on a lvl 12)

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  • hey, I don't think that is conclusive - else from the entries we have a 5-17 should be possible, which definitely isn't. axes are a bit weird, since some combinations do not drop where lower AND higher ones do (5-15 does and 5-25 does drop, whereas 5-20 doesn't - not in any req at all).

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  • new q4 sword min-dmg?

    It is a low dmg gold but overall, min dmg for q4 sword reported is 7-9.

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  • Staff min10/3/4-6, 11/5/5-8, -/-/-----


    Does this lign means that min for blue is 10/3/4-6 and min for white is 11/5/5-8 ?

    blue means blue/white, white means purple (it turned white from a change in formatting on this forum i think) and gold is gold.

    It is a bit misleading, it used to be purple

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  • It is a low dmg gold but overall, min dmg for q4 sword reported is 7-9.

    yeah and the sword i posted has q4 a min roll of 10, which is higher than 7-9. so shouldnt it be updated to 7-10?

    or am i missing something here?

    Minimum is worst, 7-9 happens and is worse than 10-14 obviously and the q4 max is 10-16 which is higher.


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  • ah ok my bad then, i was mistaken on how to readnthe table.

    i thought the "min"-range was supposed to represent the range of which the left number can roll (as in the range of the min-weapon-dmg). and vice verca for the max.

    so i assumed a weapon can have a dmg roll of 7-12 and 7-16 (widest range) and 9-12 up to 9-16.

    with my find i thought it would change the upper ranges to 10-12 and 10-16

  • I felt like the upcoming 20th anniversary would make the perfect occasion to get some of these values fixed.

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    we do see a general pattern: the min dmg for q1-5 is always the same, which is due to the fact that items with req start dropping at 9g unid for blue and white, and 6g for prp. 9g then yields the reqs 1-5, where q6 just starts at 10g, so on some weapons due rounding the q6 min damage is the same and on some is one higher. purple starts dropping on lvl7, which have a min value of 5g, which is the only place where you can get the q0 purple items and consequently the min q0 in prp on staves will differ from blue/white. the other way round the wep types max dmg occurs at q9-13, where again due to rounding on some weapon types the max damage is also possible on a q8 (foc shield sword). in between the ranges are pretty much linear to the req, which gives us some more candidates for lower/higher possible options as compared to what we have. Also staves and wands should be all identical in all rarities on min/max damages (except the min stats at the start of each rarity, since the higher rarities start dropping at higher level and hence higher min stats... read the table you will see what I mean) On top of that there is a very small set of items that I have been shown that have stats exceeding with a believable claim they dropped recently yet not meeting our standard of making absolutely sure (aka insc item or item still on ground or unid) so those could not be added.

    long story short: I would like to award people for new entries with money from my own bank - if anyone felt like it I'd certainly accept donations to fund these or would also accept people refraining to accept their reward - I'd want to set out a prize as motivation to start the hunt.

    the bounty hunt will run until end of the ingame anniversary event, starting now. You can earn points:

    confirming a predicted min value: 1 point

    confirming a predicted max value: 3 points

    confirming a new min exceeding the table and the predictions: 3 points

    confirming a new max exceeding the table and the prediction: 5 points

    spot a missing min prediction: 1 point

    spot a missing max prediction: 3 points

    by the end the 5 people with most points will be awarded a prize money:

    1st 20a

    2nd 2a0e

    3rd-5th 20ecto

    and everyone participating shall recieve on top 20k for every point earned! If I get some donations I might increase the prize money.

    so get to work and let's finally make the table somewhat reliable (I still expect a lot of room for further improvements on scythes, daggers and spears especially).

    here's the list:

    axe

    min q6 5-10

    min q7 5-12

    min q8 5-14

    min q9 5-21

    min q10 5-21

    max q2 6-15

    max q9 7-21

    bow

    min q1 8-11

    min q3 8-11

    min q4 8-11

    min q10 11-20

    min q11 12-22

    dagger

    min q5 3-7

    min q6 3-7

    hammer

    min q3 9-13

    min q6 9-13

    min q11 15-27

    min q12 16-30

    max q2 13-19

    max q4 15-25

    scythe

    min q1 7-14

    min q5 7-14

    min q7 8-18

    min q9 8-24

    min q10 8-28

    min q12 8-36

    max q8 10-36

    max q9 10-36

    max q10 10-36

    spear

    min q1 7-10

    min q2 7-10

    min q3 7-10

    min q4 7-10

    min q11 12-21

    sword

    min q8 9-12

    min q12 13-20

    wand

    min q12 10-19

    max q1 8-11

    staves blue/white

    min blue/white q2 6-10

    min blue/white q6 6-10

    min blue/white q7 7-11

    min blue/white q11 9-18

    min blue/white q12 10-19

    max blue/white q1 8-11

    max blue/white q4 10-16

    max blue/white q5 10-18

    max blue/white q6 11-19

    max blue/white q10 18hsr

    staves purple

    min purple q3 6-10

    min purple q6 6-10

    min purple q7 5e

    min purple q9 8-14

    min purple q10 7e

    min purple q11 9-18

    min purple q13 11-21

    max purple q1 8-1

    max purple q3 16hsr

    max purple q4 9e/10-16

    max purple q5 18hsr

    staves gold

    min gold q4 14hsr

    min gold q5 14hsr

    min gold q7 14hsr

    min gold q8 14hsr

    min gold q9 8-14

    min gold q10 8e

    min gold q11 9-18

    min gold q13 11-21

    max gold q6 11-19

    grand total 50 new min entries and 18 new max entries predicted. that is about every 5th of all min entries and 13th of all max entires. That is pathetic after 20years! we shall not embarrass ourselves to the gods - get to work!

    If you want advice as to where to go to find them...

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    min q1-5/max q1 lvl 9/10

    min q6 lvl 10/11

    min q7/max q2 lvl 12/13

    min q8/max q3 lvl 15

    min q9/max q4 lvl 17

    min q10/max q5 lvl 19

    max q6 lvl 20/21

    min q11 lvl 21/22

    max q7 lvl 22

    min q12/max q8-12 lvl 24+

    those are the best sources listed (aka highest chance for the drop) for blue and white items.

    the range where something is possible usually goes down 3-5 levels from there (e.g. for a max q3 you read lvl15, it is possoble to get in the range lvl11-15.)

    Happy hunting!

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  • Do I receive 5 points retroactively for confirming the existance of a new max for q3 staff earlier this year :)

    As much as I agree that was a very worthy find I wouldn't know where to draw the line if granting points retroactively... also my predictions are made based on the status as is and as such on certain entries when awarding points retrospectively I would have a hard time telling if it would have been predicted or not. on the 9-14: that one would have been predicted, as wands have that max damage listed already as do purple and blue/white staves. So I cannot award points retrospectively I'm afraid. I hope this does sound reasonable :)

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  • I am intrigued, thank you Red Fireball for putting this together.

    I may have missed it, but you may want to add the factor that this is for Post Nerf items, I am assuming.

    Glad Urgoz asked about the retro credit cause that recently found max dmg Q1 scythe is glowing in my inventory :)

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  • glowing in my inventory :)

    I will us this in screens of items I drop s a catchphrase to protect from foul play allegations ;) in the end I will not participate in the contest as in I can win a prize, but items I find will be taken from the list.

    for every proof of a claim only the first to post here will recieve the points.

    I want to leave the option open to extend the deadline if there is too little contribution till end of anniversary. But it shall at latest end end of this year so you have something to work toward. let's say at least an accumulated value of 30points must have been earned.

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