Chat Filter - Filter out gold spammers.

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[ChatFilter]

userFilter1=mmosky.com

userFilter2=gw2sale.com

userFilter3=GW2SàLè.com

userFilter4=mmogamersmarket.com

userFilter5=MMOGäMERSMARKÉT.COM

userFilter6=gwshop.com

If it's sensitive to accents and such, they'll just use other ones every time, and there are quite a few combinations they could use.

So far they haven't randomized anything more than it's manageable. If however they do I can think of two solutions:

(Primary)

1. I could just write a script that gives all permutations using accent chars, generating a compliant ChatFilter.ini

(And if things still get unmanageable...)

2. We could ask SCW (if and when he have time), to make the filter handle accent chars as their unaccented ones.

Right now there are very few of them. Just looked around in AE Kama/LA/GToB/Embark, and I just saw a single one already in the filter.

idc gold sellers.

When there's a will, there's a way. Filtering their messages has to be just par for the course routine. They will always find other ways to break the law. So, as a message pops up, write it in the filter. Eventually they will get the message that people who are filling the filter out don't want to see the messages and have no intention of buying gold illegally.

userFilter____#____=GW2SàLè.COM

userFilter___#___=0,40 €

(original message: WTS 720 Armbraces 0,40 € each)

I just tried to generate a list... but I don't think it's going to work.

With 18 letters in mmogamersmarket.com and 96 possible accents per letter (I may be wrong about the accented characters the client allows), there are 96 ^ 18 permutations. This means that just blocking mmogamersmarket.com alone would take 479603335372621236652373132533825536 lines.

At 66 bytes per line, that's 27455312445912908000 exabytes.

Clearly, it would be impossible to list every permutation in advance. All the RMTraders have to do is randomise the diacritical marks and a self-updating list would become useless.

The only real solution here, if my math is correct, is if SCW or Bill sets the chat filter to ignore diacritical marks.

Seems like not all characters are supported by the client. So that should drastically reduce the number of permutations.

Oh hooray, I just checked, GW doesn't actually support every accented character. A pre-generated list may just be possible. I'll update shortly.

Quote from renebulous

Oh hooray, I just checked, GW doesn't actually support every accented character. A pre-generated list may just be possible. I'll update shortly.

See what I said here:

Quote from Saxazax

When there's a will, there's a way. Filtering their messages has to be just par for the course routine. They will always find other ways to break the law.

I think you shouldn't waste your time. What if they start using Japanese or Korean characters? What if they just make a bunch of alts stand in next to each other to form the letters?

So, this filter doesn't actually work.

Quote from Fexghadi

So, this filter doesn't actually work.

Do u have the in-game chat filter set to at least 'normal'?

I think if it's off the custom filter won't work.

It doesn't work with accented characters. I even generated a list with all the possible permutations before I found out. Then I just used the regex chat filter on Toolbox and forgot about it.

I brought the issue about accented chars to Bill and Stephen and got a response:

Hopefully Bill will find some time to improve it a bit.

Quote from Lexx

I brought the issue about accented chars to Bill and Stephen and got a response:

Hopefully Bill will find some time to improve it a bit.

Nice! Hopefully they can do some regex magic.

I've contacted A Net several times about adding Gold Sellers to the report menu.

They've told me on as many occasions to report them as spamming.

But what if they're not spamming? (I've been asked this by other players.)

Then you ARE actually making a false report.

The problem with sending a false report is this:

In glaring red print on the report menu is that warning about false reporting

and the consequences there after of abusing the system. Not good!

I think that it will be less of a worry for players to report gold sellers if A Net would just put

the darned box to check on the menu already.

It's not as if they haven't been asked for years, and by hundreds other than me, I'm sure.

Any one know these developers enough to ask them for this upgrade?

Because it appears that this will be the only way we see it.

And I'm sure that once it's in place the reports will flow like the Orinoco.

(Still love ya Enya!)

OMG, Thank You!!!

seriously..who cares about gold sellers..not me, if i see them in trade chat idc

Ditto what Max said, it's about maintaining a healthy economy.

Without the ridiculous bouts of inflation, more people could afford to trade for

nicer items, not just the privileged few who break the rules to get there.

There is another problem that needs to be addressed with these gold sellers too,

and that is their ability to fly under the radar using devious methods.

In Kamadan as well as in Ascalon, you will often see their WTS in the Chat Dialogue Box.

Often, it does not appear in the Trade section of the party window,

and if you do go to report it you cannot, because they are posting offline.

The /report feature does not register players in an outpost who are set to offline.

There has to be a way around this, besides standing next to them

with the chat log displaying their posts, and then taking a screenshot.

I do that, then create another ticket with A Net for the gold seller box,

and when A Net replies I attach the screenshots.

I always get a Thank you we'll look into it, but in future please report in game.

A Net does not want in game reports sent in this manner,

but with offline yet active gold sellers, this seems to be the only solution so far.

The thing which you described isn't related to a player's offline status, it's due to the requirement of a reported account to still remain in the same outpost by the time someone issues a report.

Quote from Smoke Nightvogue

The thing which you described isn't related to a player's offline status, it's due to the requirement of a reported account to still remain in the same outpost by the time someone issues a report.

My apologies, but my experience with this situation is different.

They are still in the same district, yet can not be reported when they are set to offline.

I have stood next to some of them in Ascalon and taken a screenshot of their active trade post,

my report directly after their post, and the ANet statement that the player must be in the same district.

Even though I have screenshot all of this all together, standing right next to the gold seller,

it behaves as if they are not there.

So yes, I do believe it's the off line setting that affects this 100%.

I'm not entirely sure actually, just that accented chars can cause trouble.

Others here have even made software to generate all sorts of permutations,

which can get up in thousands of lines. I don't think that's quite the best approach, as it feels like killing mosquitos with cannon ball (even if it does sounds fun shooing mosquitos with cannon balls..)

If instead all accented chars would just be treated as their unaccented chars, just one line would cover it all.

The chatfilter is really great. But unless I am completely missing something, some of the instructions in this thread are wrong.

Its correct that the file need to be named "chatfilter.ini" and saved in %userprofile%"\documents\guild wars"

You can use notepad.exe to edit and just save in UTF-8 format.

Syntax (the important part) below [ChatFilter] is simply: trigger = action, scope
Example:

[ChatFilter]

mmosky.com = Suppress, Any
gw2sale.com = Suppress, Any
GW2SàLè = Suppress, Any

For those of you uncomfortable creating a filter from scratch I have attached my current chatfilter.ini as a zip-file.

The last line (action = censor) is simply for testing whether a trigger works. Try changing "# testword" to: ecto: If your chatfilter.ini is in the right folder (working) the following:

"WTB 17 ecto" will display as "WTB 17 ----"

For convenience: Create a shortcut on your desktop to chatfilter.ini in your Documents\Guild Wars folder - Makes it a lot easier to change the file while ingame.

Quote from hal

The chatfilter is really great. But unless I am completely missing something, some of the instructions in this thread are wrong.

Its correct that the file need to be named "chatfilter.ini" and saved in %userprofile%"\documents\guild wars"

You can use notepad.exe to edit and just save in UTF-8 format.

Syntax (the important part) below [ChatFilter] is simply: trigger = action, scope
Example:

Code

[ChatFilter]

mmosky.com = Suppress, Any
gw2sale.com = Suppress, Any
GW2SàLè = Suppress, Any

For those of you uncomfortable creating a filter from scratch I have attached my current chatfilter.ini as a zip-file.

The last line (action = censor) is simply for testing whether a trigger works. Try changing "# testword" to: ecto: If your chatfilter.ini is in the right folder (working) the following:

"WTB 17 ecto" will display as "WTB 17 ----"

For convenience: Create a shortcut on your desktop to chatfilter.ini in your Documents\Guild Wars folder - Makes it a lot easier to change the file while ingame.

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Just do

[ChatFilter]

.com = Suppress, Any
.c0m = Suppress, Any

I think chat filter is broken again

a new one is in game

G O L D A A, C O M

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